Trump in 2024

TRUMP DIDN'T LOSE

MAGA 2024

First thoughts here:

I've gone with the "lesser of two evils" thing before, but it only goes so far and seems like a much more useful metaphor with two candidates who've never done the job as opposed to two former Presidents, neither of whom (and I hate to admit this) truly governed evilly.

I agree with you that the the third party split thing could be fatal to either candidate, but I don't think, after 2016, anyone would do it on the left, absent Biden really losing it, which I don't see happening (health excepted anyway).

I wish I could be as optimistic about moderate Republicans jumping on the Trump train as you seem to be, but I'm not. They did it in 2016, and again in 2020, and after 8 years of kissing Trump's behinds, I don't think they'll keep him from the GOP nomination, or that enough of them be willing to sacrifice themselves, a la, Kinzinger or Cheney.

My guess is, absent big stuff happening internationally or economically, that we'll see a general election more or less like we saw in 2020, only magnified by Trump investigations, Biden's fighting through House investigations and lack of 3rd and fourth year accomplishments, and ultimately a pretty close electoral count, whatever the popular vote may be.

Having said all that, assuming that Biden and Trump are still running, how much hurt the country is felling is still probably critical, and I doubt it matters whose "fault it is."

If Trump is the nominee, Biden will win again because people will be voting for “anyone but Trump.” The Republicans are desperate for someone else to be the nominee. The real fight will be within the GOP between the MAGAGA cult and everyone else.

{@trollslayer] 🤔if trump wins the nomination too run for president i am almost certain the republicans will lose again in 2024 for all the reasons you stated

Biden did well in the mid terms because he had ammunition to work with in terms of the anti abortion vote. This fired up female voters across America to have their say.
Biden himself is not that strong but that’s not to say that there isn’t another Democratic prospect waiting in the wings.

Other than that it’s anyone’s guess.

I think there are an awful lot of "lesser of two evils" matchups where Trump turns out to be the greater evil. Still, I hope Biden can be convinced to bow out and the democrats hold an open primary.

I think DeSantis vs Trump will be a fun war to watch. Neither will go down without a fight. And since Trump fights dirty, DeSantis will be forced to also. Stock up on popcorn!!

That Fetterman dude would probably be an improvement from Biden. We’ve set the bar lower with each passing election. Dems love shock value

"My feeling is the only way Trump wins again is if the country is truly hurting,"

I've heard this said before and I just shake my head. Like....." well....I'm temporarily paying more than I like for gas...so WTF lets just ditch democracy and vote for fascism."

Trump is a traitor. Flat out. He's corrupt and 8 different investigations are pretty much the proof. He was found guilty of state fraud, interstate wire fraud........and numerous other felony charges with trump University. He paid $25 million to settle that...in lieu of prison. In NY State ---ditto. He stole from 2 charities to keep the money for himself. He was tried and found guilty of tax fraud......and several ogther felonies in that case and paid $2.3 million to avoid prison time. He pressured 2 governors to cheart an national election, was involved in a phony electors scam, stole Top Secret document to sell to Putin or China or the Saudi's......whomever paid him the most. When he lost an election he tried to use his suckers to overthrow our government and kill any lawmakers that he felt was disloyal so he could name himself Ruler of America. His entire life has been one crime after another...................but hey, if the economy is bad..........by golly let's vote for trump.

Stupid.

Trump is a loser.

The Republicans are divided they are going to screw themselves

The Republicans are divided they are going to screw themselves

2020 was election fraud