What is with history revisionists Republicans and the American Civil War?

@FreestyleArt MLK was Republican, but hardly "right wing". Back then both parties had their conservative and liberal camps. Republican was not "right wing" and democrat was not "left wing." MLK was republican, because during his time the south was dominated by right wing, racist, democrats.

@OggggO Yes, MLK very much was a Republican. Do you really think tearing down a few statues can change known history? Fortunately, few are buying the attempted cover up and false narrative.

@Indieoriginal I didn't say he wasn't a Republican, I said he wasn't right-wing.

@plinkplonk But it’s deliberate now. That’s what the fight against CRT is supposedly about. It’s been the excuse for legally prohibiting the teachings in Southern states about that history, including about Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement. If one teaches about him, one has to explain what came before, exactly what he was trying to change.

@bijouxbroussard Would you look at the face of that angry white woman. THAT pictures says it ALL. Ignorance, hatred, violence ... I hope they remember that when they go to church on Sunday

@plinkplonk I understand that years later, when she got the opportunity that woman apologized to the former student. But to be that young and have been indoctrinated to hold that much hatred towards a total stranger, is scary.

@trollslayer
By removing monuments, does that change history? Does it mean that slavery never happened? Does it mean the civil war never occurred?

If we remove the statue of George Floyd - will he come back to life?

@trollslayer Socialist Bull Shit is a really big topic

@trollslayer I think you mean *Democrats* of today trying to remove them. As @Budwick said, that won't change history. Whatever wrongs were done in the past will still have happened. There are statues in Boston that people claim are racist & stuff, but many view their existence as a reminder that we have to better in the future.

@LamontCranston Yes, that's me, using facts and actual evidence from reality to spread disinformation everywhere.

@Graylight Actually from prejudice, deceit and misunderstanding, ms graylight

@LamontCranston Prove any part of that.

@MasterLee did it half a century ago at the U of Texas and in a few books since
you made a claim and refuse to look at the sources I gave you so you've obviously got zip
you're just embarrassing yourself

@MasterLee slavery was an issue long before the civil war.
Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence condemned slavery and would have abolished it. However that clause was removed before it was signed. Jefferson later blamed two southern states for not going along with it, but also said the northern states weren't terribly keen to fight to keep it in. Jefferson didn't want to lose it. He saw the hypocrisy of a nation of slaves and a Declaration that said 'all men are created equal ' .

@MasterLee Well, actually the Republican Party was founded largely by abolitionists who felt neither of the leading parties of the time were adequately addressing the slavery issue. It rose to prominence when Senator Douglas wrote the Kansas-Nebraska Act to overturn the Missouri Compromise, and allow the residents of the new states of Kansas and Nebraska to choose being slave or non-slave -- the true meaning of States Rights, and Lincoln challenged him to a series of debates leading up to the Senatorial elections. At the same time, the Supreme Court made its Dred Scott decision which sort of made the whole issue moot, claiming that slaves remained the property of their owners regardless of slave state or non-slave state. Both of these Congressional Acts, the Dred Scott decision, and the Lincoln-Douglas debates for the U.S. Senate all predate secession and Ft. Sumter.

No matter how you want to frame it, the bottom line of the Confederate secession and the Civil War is that it was about the inability or unwillingness of Southern plantation owners to envision their economies -- and therefore their lifestyles -- to survive without slave labor. To say slavery didn't become an issue until after the war and blame Lincoln for it because of the Emancipation Proclamation is totally revisionist garbage.

Lincoln was never a rabid abolitionist; his famous line about a "house divided cannot stand" in the Lincoln-Douglas debates was aimed directly at his over-riding desire to find a way to maintain the Union rather than a zealous desire to abruptly end slavery. And among abolitionists he was in the camp that favored helping them return to Africa rather than incorporating them into the American populace as free people. Even as a wartime President he was hesitant to emancipate the slaves unilaterally, and when finally pressured into doing so only emancipated them in the secessionist states. And his plans for recovery from the Civil War was far more constructive and conciliatory to finding a way to rebuild the Southern economy without slaves than the punitive measures rammed through by his VP and successor, Andrew Johnson, and the Republican Congress.

@BohemianBabe I have heard the argument that slavery was going to die anyway but that would've been only true in the South east US. The South west could have let slavery continue and even boom with mining alone. Those machines need metal and it had to come from somewhere.

@Justme22 Eventually it would have died off everywhere, but there probably would have been some areas where it went on for who knows how long. So maybe it was a net positive that the Civil War happened, since it did lead to a national ban.

@BohemianBabe Eventually means that a generation or more would have still been slaves. It did lead to a national band and a constitutional amendment as well.

@hippyjoe1955 I daresay I read them before you. You're charming as usual and a waste of time - as usual. Bye

@tindrummer And you have no idea what leads up to a war and sole source the blame. How stupid is that? REALLY REALLY STUPID!

@ron122 Yeah, well, all those "little things" are finally adding up, aren't they, and the bigoted, ignorant voice of the extremists is quiet these days. Mostly because the dam's breaking and you're trying to decide whether to run or gawk and the force bears down..

@Graylight Yep Biden really has made a mess of things. All his disasters are adding up fast. The republicans are going to be very busy after the midterms fixing all the crap dems have destroyed.

@ron122 Best response?

@stratosranger You call facts "garbage"?

Revisionist facts are garbage delivered by people who are garbage @trollslayer