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A third of Americans don't trust the gov't report on the "North Dakota Crash." What say you?

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They are correct to distrust the government
The government has no reason to lie about it
There is no "North Dakota Crash" that I'm aware of
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This is about a 2016 survey conducted by Chapman University:

In Chapman University's latest Survey on American Fears, pollsters asked about 10 alleged cover-ups. In the most striking result, 25 percent of the respondents agreed—and another 7.5 percent strongly agreed—that the "government is concealing what they [sic] know about the North Dakota Crash."

What's striking about that? Just that the pollsters had never actually heard any conspiracy theories about a "North Dakota Crash"; they threw that in to see how people would respond to a vaguely ominous-sounding episode that they invented.

That's right, there is no "North Dakota Crash" nor government report about it. But the knee-jerk response of 1/3 of Americans is that the government isn't being forthcoming. What does that say about us??
I am pleased to report that my reaction was "What North Dakota Crash?"

I fear it says as much or more about governments (all the ones I know anything about) as it does about the populace.

They DO lie to us and they DO cover up stuff. In any serious issue there is a mad scramble behind the scene to pass responsibility on down the road.

So we don't trust them.
Graylight · 51-55, F

But mention the word "bias" and everyone acts like they're on fire.
@Graylight 👆👆👆
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
I don't care about "facts" for a made up crash, I want the facts for Russia Gate, Ukraine, government spending and the 2020 election. And I do not trust the government to provide a truthful accounting.
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@spjennifer This world isn't a bad place, but if I was having car trouble near Rosswell, I would find a way to make it Phoenix, Denver, or Dallas.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Roadsterrider Agreed, Roswell is pretty far off the beaten path but isn't that the whole point?
robb65 · 56-60, M
Once upon a time I worked with a guy named Tracy. You know the joke about how you know when a lawyer is lying? That was Tracy. Not that he was a lawyer, although I can't rule out the possibility that he may have claimed to be at some point in his life.
Tracy was the kind of person that if he walked in and claimed it was raining, and I heard water hitting the roof, and I saw it dripping off the edge of the roof I'd still want to be sure one of his buddies weren't up on the roof taking a piss before I agreed it was raining. There was no question about whether or not Tracy would lie, the question was what was he going to lie about on that particular day and why.

Has the American government lied? Have they been involved in coverups? Assassinations, or at the least attempted assassinations? Intentionally released misleading information? Diversions? Am I supposed to believe those things didn't happen just because some percentage of the American people are slow enough to fall for a trick question?
robb65 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues Just to be clear about something, the CDC isn't a government agency.
@robb65 They seem to have a different view.

Because CDC is a federal agency, all scientific findings resulting from CDC research are available to the public and open to the broader scientific community for review.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/about/business/cdcfoun.htm (last paragraph)
robb65 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues Looks like I misspoke. There's a "CDC Foundation" that is a separate entity from the CDC and someone confused the two.

Digging a little deeper I can see how that confusion came about since the "CDC Foundation" was created by Congress and has ties to the CDC.
Ontheroad · M
Likely the same group that believes aliens have abducted humans, the 2020 election was stolen and who wear weird tin foil hats.
meJess · F
A third of Americans mistrust their government regardless of the issue
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
1/3 of the USA population needs to be eliminated due to inferior genetic makeup. Aliens from a distant planet know this, this is why they have hypnotized most developed countries populations into shaving or otherwise eliminating their pubic hair, to make them easier to harvest as a food source when they come for that 33%.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
Well, I do have some genuine skepticism about there not being alien space craft and alien bodies in Roswell... but hey, if we can have a buffoon like tRump as President, anything is possible, right? 🤪
@spjennifer I've personally filed that one under "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." I'm keeping an open mind, but Trump, as president, promised to get to the bottom of it and never reported anything. So the only evidence we have is persistent rumors. Not enough to dismiss the question entirely, but certainly not enough to give it much credence.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@ElwoodBlues Fair points, like you I am somewhat skeptical but something definitely happened there, question is what? I always though it might have been some Top Secret experiment that succeeded all too well and they want to keep it hidden... As for tRump, they probably put something in his cheeseburgers to keep him out of it, lol 🤪
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Interestingly, 1/3 believe no one has done more for Christianity than Cry-Baby-trump... as expressed by his son, Eric.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
That many Americans watch Fox News, Newsmax, etc?
Sounds similar to the reports of the "Bowling Green Massacre". If the sound bites work, someone will buy it.
bowman81 · M
There is no North Dakota crash but there IS widespread mistrust of the Government. That is not an altogether bad thing. Bullshit "gotcha" studies don't do a thing to ease the problem.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@bowman81 They hold up a mirror. They highlight interesting or salient details and trends.

No, it's not healthy that the majority percentage of a population mistrusts their government, particularly when it's they themselves who're responsible for funding, choosing and directing that government.
Trust in most institutions is at an all time low - because capitalism has induced general system failure.
@Roundandroundwego Ummm...a lot of it has to do with leaders having no duty to the Truth...which Madison would never have expected.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
Reminds me of the old scare about dihydrogen monoxide.
@hunkalove Dihydrogen oxide?
hunkalove · 61-69, M
@SomeMichGuy I fixed it.
meJess · F
@hunkalove that scare was clearly watered down
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
We are so used to being lied to it's like Pavlovs dogs.
@Riverman2 Fair enough. But if you look objectively, a source like Qanon has a MUCH higher lie rate than the US Government. Qanon predicted "The Storm Is Coming" repeatedly and was wrong every single time. Why doesn't Qanon suffer the same rejection rate as the government?
Riverman2 · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues Seems to me like it does.
@ElwoodBlues This isn't a balanced comparison.

I think Qanon does experience a high percentage of rejection, but while Qanon may be influential, we didn't elect it to govern us. Every election we have to choose in which hands to place power, and if they gave us more reason to trust they will do what they say they'll do, or at the very least explain why it's not doable, elections wouldn't be fraught with so much emotion and magical thinking.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Fake news!

There is no way there is so many literate Americans.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
The whole time I am thinking "what is the North Dakota fucking crash?"


Then I got to the end....and it all made sense.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
This is more sad than funny.
Well this is the same country that with a similar study a few years ago was convinced to bomb Agrabah.
its really hard to trust the government. the vast majority are a bunch of weasels.
bookerdana · M
We trust pollsters more than the government
@bookerdana
AND you trust Alex Jones more than the government.
AND you trust Qanon more than the government.
AND you trust that lying sack of corruption more than the government.
bookerdana · M
@ElwoodBlues Not I,the people you mentioned are ANATHEMA to me
I dont trust pollsters either
SW-User
"Why isn't the Lamestream Media™ talking about the North Dakota Crash?!?!"
🤦‍♀️

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nedkelly · 61-69, M
@SW-User well he is not the smartest
SW-User
@nedkelly this Trumpkin seems like your kind of (adopted) guy, someone you could really live vicariously through over there in Australia

 
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