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Both liberals and conservatives lose

I know I will take fire from both sides but here goes. In my opinion, if the elite establishment ( aka globalists) are successful we all lose. The liberals will not be allowed to implement a utopian society nor will the conservatives be allowed to maintain individual freedoms and a republic. Ok let the flames throwing begin. 😳
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ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
As a libertarian, I approve this message. Both parties are insane. But do know that most neo liberals are globalists and believe in a global village with no borders. Furthering the elite agenda.
@ShadowWolf Where are you getting this?
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@ShadowWolf No one cares what you think.
@ShadowWolf Globalism refers to various patterns of meaning beyond the merely international. It is used by political scientists, such as Joseph Nye, to describe "attempts to understand all the interconnections of the modern world—and to highlight patterns that underlie them."
Now that is interesting
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@markansas That is far from the modern definition and what most consider it to be. Most consider it to be a global society with no borders, on a single currency and a very powerful (think 1984), big brother world government.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@CorvusBlackthorne Oh Corvus, it appears I can see you accounts again. And your first reply to me is a meme with zero essence, nothing meaningful to say. Being a libertarian is being free thinking, and not following a ridiculous party/herd mentality.
@ShadowWolf You are using a Trump notion of "globalism"; from the wikipedia entry:

The term is now frequently used as a pejorative by far-right movements and conspiracy theorists.[3] False usage in this way has also been associated with anti-semitism, as anti-semites frequently appropriate the word globalist for Jews.[4][5][6]
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@ShadowWolf No.

Triggered because you misunderstand "globalism"/see it through the fog of Trumpism?

Your "god" has clay feet.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy Again, why the hell do you think I support Trump? Are you that dense? Why are you calling him a "god". Did you completely miss the first half of my post back to you? Just because someone disagrees with your insane left wing ideology, does not make them a Trump supporter. Yet you all have PTSD from the "god emperor", even after he has been out of office for over a year. If you didn't have PTSD, you wouldnt be screaming "MAGA idoit" and "Trumpist" at everyone who disagrees with you. Newsflash!!!! People disagreed with Obama, pre trump. People disagreed with Clinton... pre trump. That didn't make them Nazis or Trumpists. I've had to correct many people on here. And it appears you cannot read. I am LIBERTARIAN. I DO NOT associate with the current GOP. Therefore I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH TRUMP. Get it through your thick leftist skull.

It is not misunderstood. You are taking the Nazi interpretation. I am referring to Agenda 21. Which is NOT what you are even hinting at.


EDIT: It would seem the majority of you posts have "trump" in them. You really have PTSD don't you? You really are that scared and scarred from a fat orange man?
@ShadowWolf LMAO

You have had mixed replies but libertarians have lost their reasoned approach from years ago.

I mostly *reply* to Trump posts because of the obvious existential threat to the US Constitution which he & his followers represent.

If you weren't paying attention, he's the first President to violate the Oath by actively taking part in a multi-pronged attempt to thwart an election & remain in power like his authoritarian heroes/buddies/love interests.

I am more worried about Trump's supporters, who continue to carry the torch for the least prepared guy fkr the Presidency ever.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy We lost our reasoned approach? Ha! It's only because you leftists swung so hard left! And now that we disagree on more, you demonize us too almost as much you do the GOP. It's the perspective of your batshit neo liberal ideology (Marxisim) of recent time that has changed, not us libertarians. By contrast, the GOP also has gotten more extreme, and again, we do not follow them to that extreme. I'm a libertarian. I'm a free thinker, and am not bound to one fixed ideology (left or right). You have not yet responded to me regarding agenda 21, which, is a Marxist world agenda, which is highly documented online. That is globalism, to me, and many. I do not support trump. He has ruined the GOP. He is a buffoon. He is a manic. I would never support him on the GOP ticket.
@ShadowWolf

I don't have extreme views. The Republicans have gone so far RIGHT that Mitt Romney & Liz Cheney are too far LEFT for them. Poor Jeb Bush must be considered nearly a progressive! lol

I do not support trump. He has ruined the GOP. He is a buffoon. He is a manic. I would never support him on the GOP ticket.

Good. I'll never support another GOP candidate other than one local person ever again. The inability of that party to excise the cancer has shown its true nature.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy You and you leftist cohorts do have extreme views. A good majority of you have swung hard left (towards Communism/Marxism.) The left used to be more in line with us libertarians. Hence your perspective of "you guys betrayed us" No, it's you who betrayed us. What remains of the Moderate GOP members are more in line with libertarian manifest nowadays. The left and right both became more extreme an polarized than the past. Libertarians, have, for the most part, stayed consistent. That is because our manifest is very hard to change. So here we are watching you guys duke it out and become more and more extreme. Our manifest is freedom for all, live and let live, don't tax me bro, don't get involved in foreign affairs, and small un-intrusive government in a nutshell. Easy.
@ShadowWolf LMAO

I have had the same views for a while.

And I don't think about Libertarians that way...or as other than comic relief.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy Well, that's because you leftists have become the actual party of intolerance. Anyone with a differing opinion from you is seen as "the enemy". And you immediately shut them down/out because you are so far up your own ass it's not funny. Traditionally your party has used the "race card", now it's the "trump" card. Even though in many cases neither of those apply to the person/people you are referring. Such as this case. In any case, I digress. You, like most of your cohort, are not open to serious discussion that does not agree with every little "checkbox" of your agenda. Good day.
@ShadowWolf LMAO

No.

The Trump followers have a list of conspiracies, now you tell me Libertarians do, too.

I don't. But I *do* laugh at those who think that an idea MUST be true because it's a minority view.
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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@ShadowWolf You are able to see this account, because it is not blocked for you. The website seems to think that if one reports another user's posts or comments which are violations, one wishes to block as well. Did you ever report Shadowfire? I promise I won't be angry if the answer is yes.

And your first reply to me is a meme with zero essence, nothing meaningful to say.
Incorrect as always. The libertarian mentality is one of childish narcissism. You demand freedom from things which we as a society all agreed were necessary, yet you refuse to leave said society. That tells me you have all the freedom and Independence of a house cat who hunts in the backyard.
ShadowWolf · 31-35, M
@CorvusBlackthorne To my knowledge, I did not report Shadowfire as stated back then. But Admins might have seen one of our previous exchanges. Hard to say. Can you try posting here in response with Shadowfire? I swear I've started seeing your posts as Shadowfire again. I'll let you know if I can see it!

Incorrect as always. The libertarian mentality is one of childish narcissism. You demand freedom from things which we as a society all agreed were necessary, yet you refuse to leave said society. That tells me you have all the freedom and Independence of a house cat who hunts in the backyard.

So I've mentioned before, and I'll mention again. I am not reliant on, nor do I take advantage of any systems that I don't support as a libertarian. My water is private, my schools have been private, my retirement plan is private. I do not pay into SS. Among other things. I never agreed to half of the things in place. Including the grand majority of taxes.
@ShadowWolf I said IT is real, but your INTERPRETATION *is* as a conspiracy theory.

Why is it so hard to think that a planet-wide problem needs a planet-wide solution?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@ShadowWolf Yup. I can see you again, so I guess they decided we'd had enough time apart, lol.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@ShadowWolf
Among other things. I never agreed to half of the things in place. Including the grand majority of taxes.
You are free to renounce your citizenship, then.
SW-User
@ShadowWolf glad to see you drop the pretense that libertarians are NOT right wingers.

It wasn't that long ago that libertarians were all for open borders ... NOW you worry about "no borders"?! So you are NeoNEOLibertarian or something?

It never has been a requirement for you to "agree" with everything in order for those things to exist, where do you derive some fantasy that your agreement is require? Please do try some "sovereign citizen" nonsense and stop paying income tax.

You don't take advantage of non-libertarians systems? Do you drive on roads by chance? Who will put out your house on fire?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SW-User @ShadowWolf
@ShadowWolf So you admit to being a tax cheat?

Thanks! Screenshots taken, now to the IRS.