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Should Trump be charged with crimes?

My question is not about whether or not he is guilty of crimes, but whether it would be good for the country as a whole to charge him even if there is ample evidence. I certainly see where there is enough evidence of crimes, but considering 40% of the country is still swallowing his #$%#, I think having him "tried" in the court of public opinion may be the better outcome in the long run. I fear that charging him will only strengthen his support.
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
He needs to be charged.

Nixon did what was good for the country; he resigned.

Trump tried to remain in power after being voted out.

If President Biden pardons him, I'm okay with that. But Trump shouldn't be allowed to run for public office again. If the Senate had convicted him and added that to the impeachment conviction, we wouldn't be where we are today.
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
@beckyromero Trump, plus his 'enterprise' (which includes a wide range of acolytes including Mike Lindell along with Trump's wives and children and their siblings/relatives/partners/etc.), should be barred from holding any public office.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@beckyromero I agree with you that Trump should have been convicted by the Senate, and disqualified from ever holding public office again. I disagree with a pardon for Trump and for Nixon. Nixon should have been tried at the time.
@beckyromero Why don't you ever make a comment about your idol and his crack head son???
@zonavar68 Kind of a broad brush of prohibitions there.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@thedarkside

Is he an elected official? No.

Is he serving in some official role in the administration? No.
@beckyromero If it were Trumps son, would you and the liberal media be jumping all over the story?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@thedarkside Not to implicate Trump. Trump Jr.'s crimes are his own, not his father's.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@thedarkside [quote]If it were Trumps son, would you and the liberal media be jumping all over the story?[/quote]

Donald Jr had official positions in his father's campaign and in the White House.

Eric Trump is an executive vice president in the Trump organization.

But what [b]Barron Trum[/b]p does legally in his spare time, since he's not officially involved in his father's business and did not hold a position in the administration, is his business, not mine or the media's.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@beckyromero As usual, you know nothing
@beckyromero And good old dad doesn't know anything about it. Right?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@thedarkside Pretty remarkable that people think that a competitive auction of oil released from the Strategic Oil Reserve for sale to the highest bidder (including both US and foreign companies) is directed to a specific company regardless of price. There is a notice given to all eligible companies, bids are submitted, and the highest bid wins. Amazing, isn't it? Oh, and it is a Department of Energy auction, not a Biden auction.

Try some facts next time. I know they are distasteful to you, but give facts a try anyway.
@windinhishair The only fact that I am concerned about is that the price of gas has doubled since Biden took office.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@thedarkside Gasoline prices have increased globally substantially due to global market forces. It has almost nothing to do with Biden. Like I said, try some facts. Context would help too.
@thedarkside [quote]The only fact that I am concerned about is that the price of gas has doubled since Biden took office.[/quote]
@windinhishair I am not concerned about the rest of the world, I am only concerned about the US.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@thedarkside Good. Then to simplify it for you, Biden has nothing to do with the gas prices you abhor.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@ididntknow [quote]As usual, you know nothing[/quote]

As usual, you've drank too much Kool-aid.

ididntknow · 51-55, M
@beckyromero How very mature of you,
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@ididntknow

Says the person who posted this:

https://similarworlds.com/politics/4400715-Absolutely-correct
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@windinhishair [quote]Nixon should have been tried at the time.[/quote]

1) Nixon resigned before the House voted on a resolution to begin impeachment proceedings/

2) What Trump did makes Nixon look like he was caught pitching pennies.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@beckyromero He should have been tried after he resigned in disgrace instead of being pardoned by Ford. Ford did the wrong thing for the wrong reasons. I agree that what Trump did was far worse, but we would have at least established precedent that a president is not above the law had Nixon been charged and tried.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@windinhishair

First if all, it is VERY unlikely that you would have found 67 votes in the Senate to convict a FORMER president in an impeachment trial, even if the House impeached him (and there would have been no certainty of that).

Secondly, the country needed to heal. President Ford did the right thing knowing it would probably cost him the 1976 election (and it did).

https://news.gallup.com/vault/218198/gallup-vault-pardon-took-decade-forgive.aspx

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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@beckyromero It should have cost Ford the election. I was then of voting age and believed then, and now, that it was the wrong decision for the wrong reasons. The decision was widely condemned at the time, and it cost the nation a chance to pursue justice through a trial (not impeachment). A Gallup poll in September 1974 showed that a 53% majority of Americans supported Ford not granting Nixon a pardon. Only 38% supported a pardon if Nixon was tried and convicted. During the campaign two years later, 55% still felt that a pardon was the wrong move, and only 35% thought it was the right thing to do. This squares with my recollections at the time.

Nixon never believed the rest of his life that he had done anything wrong. We should have settled things once and for all then. It has only been relatively recently that people have started to say it was the right and a courageous decision. I respect your opinion, but mine reflects the national opinion at the time and has remained unchanged for the past 48 years based on the situation that existed at the time. Acceptance of presidential criminality may have been normalized to some extent during the Reagan Administration and contributed to the change in attitude.