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Not at all, because Gore accepted the results and conceded before the year was out, and he didn’t urge Democrats to "march" on the capital because he lost.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@bijouxbroussard but he didn't lose.
bijouxbroussard · F
@Roundandroundwego The Supreme Court ruled otherwise, alas.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@bijouxbroussard nothing. We know nothing,,! Duhhhhuh!
windinhishair · 61-69, M
The Election of 2000 was a good example of how people (Gore in particular) still believed in the rule of law. The entire election hinged on a single state result in Florida. The simple fact is that more people went to the polls in Florida and voted for Gore over Bush, but enough of theire votes were miscounted that it threw the election into dispute, which the Supreme Court settled in a 5-4 vote for Bush. Once that occurred, Gore graciously bowed out even though he won the election. It couldn't be more different from the 2021 insurrection supporting a coup to keep Trump in office following a fair election he lost by a wide margin.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@SW-User That's an interesting article, and includes specifics that I remember seeing 20+ years ago. My takeaways from going through it at the time is that Gore had more supporters go to the polls in Florida and cast absentee votes to vote for him than Bush, so he should have been president based on actual voters and votes. It is also highly ironic that if Gore's lawsuit on recounting was granted, he would have lost.
Had Gore won, and he should have (and actually did), we wouldn't have gone to war in the Middle East based on lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction. The economy would be much better today without the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy that took the nation from a budget SURPLUS to the largest deficit in history in less than two years, because we would have continued to run a surplus. Without Bush, Obama probably doesn't get elected, Trump never runs for President, and we don't have a huge recession from 2007 to 2011. The US, and the world, would be different today.
Had Gore won, and he should have (and actually did), we wouldn't have gone to war in the Middle East based on lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction. The economy would be much better today without the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy that took the nation from a budget SURPLUS to the largest deficit in history in less than two years, because we would have continued to run a surplus. Without Bush, Obama probably doesn't get elected, Trump never runs for President, and we don't have a huge recession from 2007 to 2011. The US, and the world, would be different today.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@windinhishair it's odd that American people don't follow that story enough to become a political force.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego Very few people even followed it at the time. I would mention it to people in 2001 and 2002 and their eyes would glaze over. No one wanted to deal with it. And there were deniers then just like there are deniers now, though their numbers and ferocity has drastically increased.
SW-User
LOL. I don't think Al Gore attempted a coup. He challenged the result in the courts, lost, and accepted it.
Trump challenged the result in the courts, lost, and orchestrated a violent mob to attack the Capitol (allegedly).
Trump challenged the result in the courts, lost, and orchestrated a violent mob to attack the Capitol (allegedly).
SW-User
@Roundandroundwego Are you saying that Al Gore supporters attempted to march on the Capitol and overturn the election in 2000...?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@SW-User no, I'm saying Republicans stole it in the courts. The same guys doing something now... Whatever,! I take it back-. Nothing.
SW-User
@Roundandroundwego OMG I'm so sorry. I think I misunderstood you!😳
SW-User
It's not unrelated. It was an example of a president losing an election and the courts deciding the outcome. Sort of a precursor to what Trump wanted to happen in 2020. There are differences, of course; it hinged on one state's results (Florida) and the cessation of further recounts. It was due to a very close result in a contested state, not the result of false accusations of fraud done preemptively to undermine the eventual result. But it is not unrelated.
Mamapolo2016 · F
There is at least one major difference - a violent attack on Congress.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Mamapolo2016 don't go there-. Similarities... Stick to the talking points!
Mamapolo2016 · F
@Roundandroundwego Not in this lifetime.
redredred · M
We live in a republic in the US, not a democracy. We use a democratic process to elect representatives, congressional or executive. The President is elected with votes from the electoral college. Bush won a majority of those and, once Gore gave up the “hanging chad” bullshit about Florida, Bush legally became president-elect.
Not a coup, it was the legal process playing out properly.
Not a coup, it was the legal process playing out properly.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
Bush won the 2000 election. You need to get over it. Gore did. Gore was not a sore loser. Neither was Nixon in 1960.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@beckyromero whatever. Murka don't mind.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Roundandroundwego
If Democrats want to start winning states like Florida and Texas then the counties they control in such states need to start putting real money into elections. Have enough poll workers, have enough polling stations, get start of the art tabulation equipment so ballots can be counted quickly, stop designing "butterfly" ballots that confuses people into voting for Pat Buchanan.
If Democrats want to start winning states like Florida and Texas then the counties they control in such states need to start putting real money into elections. Have enough poll workers, have enough polling stations, get start of the art tabulation equipment so ballots can be counted quickly, stop designing "butterfly" ballots that confuses people into voting for Pat Buchanan.
checkoutanytime · M
[media=https://youtu.be/4dvXG18ZA1I]Excellent question. In review of history i think its common knowledge the Bush's were more like a royal connection in the world wide web of geopolotics than actually for Abraham Lincolns republican party's view. However with the second constitution of the 1880's, that turned the government into a business im not sure about any election being certified in connection to the peoples vote. Its the repulsive actions of FDR that really make me question election integrity.
TexChik · F
WE didnt elect Al Gore. They couldnt prove the intentions of the voter by the direction of a "hanging chad". Stupidest stunt ever up to that point . And we wont talk about the democrat operatives caught with thousands of unpunched cards and a voting machine in their trunk. Libs can win a fair election.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@TexChik Republicans, judges-. Taking it away from the voters and winning,,?... whatever. You don't think they're related,so they're not.
TexChik · F
@Roundandroundwego Republican judges saving this country from what happened in 2020. It was called the supreme court.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@TexChik whatever,-. No connection? No problem! Coup never happened, the next one won't be real, either.
BizSuitStacy · M
It's not a coup if the "opposition" is part of the uni-party. Trump isn't establishment and ain't in the club. We saw the difference quite clearly. The media and the left feigned outrage with Bush over Gore. But the deep state actually fabricated the Russian collusion, Ukrainian quid pro quo, and J6. Media talk of impeachment began minutes after Trump won the election. That's how much they fear him.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
No way we have a problem with Republicans overturning elections. No. Just say no to the facts!
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Not sure it rose to the level of a coup, but in a certain state the GOP did seem to like ignoring election laws.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
The fuck happened to my answer!?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@LordShadowfire was it the obscene one? Duh.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Roundandroundwego Define obscene. I pointed out that nobody BROKE INTO THE CAPITOL BUILDING TO PREVENT THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER FROM CLINTON TO BUSH!
Even though Gore won.
Even though Gore won.
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@BackyardShaman derbledie bleh blah blah.
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