@WillaKissing You could ask Muammar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein or Leonid Brezhnev or Joseph Stalin if they were still around. They have (had) first-hand experience.
@MarkPaul Um, the last two that you mentioned were from the same country as Putin and they had the Nukes that Putin said he would use. That right there is a whole different dynamic that your first two piss ant countries and leaders did not have. Always easy to invade a small week nation. As a 27-year Army Veteran/retiree I understand this. Do you? Have you served? Spilled blood, or your own blood? Massive difference between third world countries without nukes than one massive second world country with nukes. You don't see anyone rushing to take out North Korea that is sitting on their own nukes do you?
@WillaKissing Your question was, "how do you fire a dictator that took over power/leadership..." Do you remember that? Now, you seem to want to ask, "how do you fire a dictator of a country with access to nuclear weapons..." Okay. THE answer remains the same.
Don't rely on a Hollywood movie version of how nuclear missiles will be launched. While it certainly is a dangerous affair, the idea that one madman can easily do it with a push of a button all on his own is a dramatic effect with little affiliation to reality. There are several steps and people in a process that takes place. And, everyone along that process at each step knows the implications of his/her orders with a mind to decide to proceed or stop. That alone won't stop the act from occurring, but it does prevent automatic assurance it will take place.
It is important for you to distinguish the drama necessary to keep an audience engaged in a movie showing one person pushing a single button with the associated special effects and the limitations of reality where no such button exists or works in that special effects way.
As for your enthrallment over Kim Jung Un of North Korea, North Koreans have been beaten down, literally programmed, and starved to the point of submission. That's not the case with Russians who have tasted the lifestyle of the West. While currently suppressed, they should not be so quickly underestimated. Putin has seen what happens when you underestimate a free-loving people. You would do well to learn that same lesson.
@MarkPaul With Putin's style leadership. It is more of do what I say when I say or you die. Again I had 27 years in the US Army. I know how our system works, but in Pitin's country if he orders it, it will happen. With your little drones an ideas you better have your draft card filed!
@WillaKissing You don't understand how humans operate. At certain points, Khruschev, Brezhnev, and Gorbachev all were able to give orders as you mention. Then, one day they weren't, all done in by "loyalists" who decided to consider their own (selfish) interests. The message and the lesson is, everyone (EVERYONE) needs to watch their back. Get it...?
@MarkPaul If ! If anyone is to take Putin out, it has to be his own command staff that does so. Look what has happened to the protestors in his own country. The Russians have no issue with camps and killing their own peoples. It must be his own command staff that decides to take him out, they are the only ones that can get to him.
Do you understand that?
Definitely not a Libya or Irac or Afghanistan situation at all like you suggested.
@WillaKissing It seems you are among those who underestimate the power of people collectively working to achieve freedom and ethical standing. Of course, someone on his command staff could do it too, but that doesn't guarantee success as Gorbachev's most loyal staff found out when they tried it. Afghanistan is a whole other story with a different dynamic in terms of cultural fortitude. North Korea too.
You keep changing the basis of your question and your concern so it is difficult to narrow down a reasonable scenario, but I'm trying to do my level best with what you are giving me to work with.
@MarkPaul You are the one that originally stated it could be done just like in Irac, Afghanistan, and Syria (YOU DID IT)! I said it is a whole different situation with Putin and Russia! Get your facts straight!
As far as the people of Russia that have been beaten down and sent to camps or killed since the early 1900's. It will take a whole nation uprising to make it happen, the people of Russia are too conditioned, unorganized, and quit when the riot troops roll out. But I am willing to send a young idealist like you there to organize the Russia populace, are you game?
@WillaKissing Of course I am game. Anything is better than being surrounded by naysayers and apathetic grizzled veterans.
You suggested it is impossible to remove a 22-year dictator (YOU DID THAT!). I suggested dictators of many different stripes are regularly kicked to the curb. Stick to one argument at a time and use logic and good hard reasoning if you want to play this game. Learn the rules.
@WillaKissing Russia is no different and if anything, they have proven they are so much less. They lack discipline, heart, and most of all the will to be free. And, you have no idea what you are talking about.
@WillaKissing Yes, that is funny. What you can't seem to get your mind wrapped around is that I am saying they can find the will to overthrow their baby-dictator and you aren't. And, that's hilarious.
@MarkPaul I wish they would, but the Russian people do not have a great history of personal bravery. That is my point, and they just roll over and have another swig of Vodka. They need a lively patriot like you to lead them.
@WillaKissing I suppose you slept through the end of the Soviet Empire when "the people" thwarted the coup of Gorbachev and then pushed Yeltsin into a position of power. Sadly, that led the way for Putin, BUT it was the will of the Russian people at work. Like Putin, you are underestimating the will of the people. Perhaps both you and Putin still have some things to learn.
@WillaKissing It seems like I have unfinished business with you and those of "your type" first. I'm a first-things-first type of super-hero. Let that be your first lesson.
@MarkPaul Look get off of your xbox and out of your mother's basement and build a life of your own. Other than that, call yourself as you wish my child.
@MarkPaul Look. I get that you want the Russian people to rise up against Vlad The Invader, but it's not going to happen. You talk about revolution to people who are beaten down the way these guys are, and they just don't want to go to the trouble. They'd rather take their antidepressants with a shot of vodka, and go on pretending their lives don't suck.
@LordShadowfire I want the Russian people to do the right thing. They have been beaten down, but they also have been given the sweet taste of a Western lifestyle. They have risen before and they will do it again. I won't stop speaking out about it and prompting them to fire their dictator despite Tucker Carlson's broadcasted fears. He has to go (possibly both of them have to go).
@LordShadowfire I don't think we do. You think Russians are incapable of rising up. You don't know (or don't understand or don't want to know and understand) history. I know they are capable of rising up and expect they will. Wipe-off that chocolate on your chin.
