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Have you heard about this horrific anti-abortion bill out of Missouri?

Missouri house bill 2810 would make abortion at 10 weeks a Class A felony. That means 10-30 years in prison. It also criminalizes abortion for ectopic pregnancies. This is a pregnancy where the fertilized egg implants outside the uterus. It is nonviable and there’s no medical science or technology to change that. Ectopic pregnancies are so dangerous for women that they are the cause of 10% of all pregnancy-related deaths and the leading cause of death in the first trimester. So the Missouri GOP is giving women a choice to either die or spend 30 years in prison. Draconian.
So what’s the woman supposed to do with an ectopic pregnancy ? Just die ? Right-wingers obviously hate girls and women, and they’re taking our country down the f*cking toilet. One Southern state at a time. 😞
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@bijouxbroussard

One of the lawmakers supporting this said they could be reimplanted in the uterus. 😳 With what medical degree did he come to THAT conclusion?? It's insane.
@Bushranger Same. But I sure feel bad for the women and girls who do.
@Randi1125 Ohh, brother ! 🤦🏽‍♀️
Graylight · 51-55, F
And one Missouri lawmaker wants to (idiotically and impossibly) make it a felony to seek an abortion out of state.

This country's top jobs are built on a tradition of vetting higher education (preferably master's degrees and higher), background checks, ethical standards comparisons, demonstrated accomplishments, even psychological background. But when it comes to politicians, any useful idiot will do. Experience? Not required. Education? Not required? Understanding of basic US and Constitutional law? No required. Experience in legislation, analytics, diplomacy, project management? Nope, not needed.

If you open a pool to the lowest hanging fruit, that fruit will find a way to float.
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Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Graylight It's not only fruit and cream that floats.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Randi1125 Very true. And just this morning? Idaho's new termination limit for abortions will be 6 weeks, which every woman knows is essentially banning abortion. Except they didn't, and why not? A provision holds that males in a woman's life who chooses abortion may sue abortion providers.

The Idaho bill, similarly titled a “heartbeat bill,” allows family members of what the legislation calls “a preborn child” to sue the abortion provider, and establishes a reward of at least $20,000, plus legal fees. It allows lawsuits against providers for up to four years after an abortion.

The Texas law, considered the strictest in the nation, allows no exceptions for women who are victims of rape or incest. The Idaho bill provides an exception but requires women to file a police report and show it to the provider before they can get an abortion. Neither state would prosecute women who have an abortion. NYT

Why write the law this way instead of simply banning abortion? Two reasons, I believe. 1) Punitive malice toward anyone who doesn't support their position and acts as such and 2) the option for financial gain to men in a situation that has nothing to do with them.

In 2014, 468 restrictions intended to limit, control or otherwise regulate women's reproductive rights. How many legislating men's bodies in that same time? Zero.

The part of small government is restricting and legislating on everything from education to TV to health to voting. That's not a government for and by the people. That's a government that uses its own citizens as food.
They will definitely have so many people going to another state,
Ectopic pregnancy puts the mother at risk, in the this day and age hearing something like this is absord!
There should be an appeal for changing this law
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@RadiantRuby

Todd Akin. "You can't get pregnant from legitimate rape."
@Randi1125 Good riddance he died!
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
Pherick · 41-45, M
They truly are insane. It feels like the last 5 years or so have been giant steps backwards in the progressive nature of our country. It really saddens me.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Pherick

It really is sad. The GOP minds are in our classrooms, bedrooms, and doctor offices. They don’t have time for anything constructive.
Pherick · 41-45, M
@Randi1125 As Hamilton said in the musical, "They don't have a plan of their own, they just hate mine". Hit the nail on the head.
In response to the bill, Republican state Senate Majority Leader Cale Rowden tweeted that if it makes it to the Senate, it will be “DOA,” or dead on arrival.

It looks like Rep. Seitz is pandering to his constituency, not actually expecting it to pass or change anything.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Mamapolo2016

Watch this video. He doesn't even understand his own bill, And he looks like a riverboat cruise magician!

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/watch-now-house-members-debate-

What is wrong with these people? Religious authorities are the biggest hypocrites of all, and the rest of us (mostly women) have to deal with their consequences
@Mamapolo2016 Let’s hope he’s right.
@bijouxbroussard Let's do!
GoodoldBob · 61-69, M
Actually, in some cases ectopic pregnancies can be saved with modern medical techniques. And there is nothing "horrific" about protecting the lives of defensless innocent babies. The horrific thing is that such protections are not already in place in all 50 states.

Our society is very very sick and broken in that it is legal to snuff out a human life as long as he or she is very small and helpless.
Pherick · 41-45, M
@MrBrownstone Vaccines, like all medicine, are rigorously tested. Can we tell how every medication will affect every single person? Of course not. Does that mean we shouldn't use those medications? Again, of course not.

We know the vaccines have an excellent safety record and by staggering amounts they have helped and saved more people than they have hurt.
Pherick · 41-45, M
@GoodoldBob You are not right. Thats like saying jumping off a 100ft cliff is survivable. Sure, maybe a tiny fraction of people could survive, but the vast majority won't. Saying its "safe to jump" isn't right. Its a severe twisting of the real truth.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@GoodoldBob

You didn't answer my question about your wife. Would you encourage her to risk her life? Because most likely she will die.

So typical of an old crusty white man to say "get over it".
SW-User
I just really don't care anymore.
People whine and complain about others NOT getting a "vaccine" NOT FDA approved and say the "ANTI VAXERS are going to kill everyone and then we have this....people whining about NOT being allowed to kill a baby that was somehow stuffed in their bodies without them having a clue how that happened!
As for the women dying part.... That's a different thing.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@SW-User

You're entitled to your opinion but I bet if men were able to get pregnant ab0rtion clinics would be as fast and accessible as drive-thru restaurants. But sure, go off.
SW-User
@Randi1125 I don't need to blame a man for my choices and decisions. I am quite able to take responsibility for myself and not want to dump my child in the trash. And yes, I am entitled my opinion.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@SW-User

Scoot scoot
Bushranger · 70-79, M
Disgusting piece of legislation.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Randi1125 Not even making medical decisions. A medical decision would allow the termination of an ectopic pregnancy.

Do you know the rationale behind this legislation? Is it religious based?
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Bushranger

Religious ideology over Science. This is what's happening in the US.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Randi1125 Hopefully it won't last forever. But the damage it's causing is mind boggling. Hopefully not terminal.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
I think it is stupid that all these Republican states keep passing more and more ridiculous state laws. We already have a federal law on the books...unless the supreme court changes it.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@PTCdresser57 The Supreme Court has given every indication that five justices (that’s all that’s needed) are ready to overturn Roe v. Wade this summer. All the liberals on the Court plus Roberts are not enough to stop them, so laws like this one will take effect.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
I know what to expect Theyitis. This court does not adhere to what other supreme courts usually did. In the past...very few times did a new supreme court over rule what a previous supreme court ruled.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Theyitis

Another step into taking women’s rights, health, and most importantly lives! I’m fearful to see what comes next.
It would seem the Grand-Old-Party is to woman, what the KKK is to blacks. Or worse.

I can't believe we live in such a barbaric world. But in this sea of politically-induced mass psychosis, it's not surprising.

I pray bill 2810 doesn't get passed. 🙏
It's no less than pure idiocy.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@PhoenixPhail

Even crazier are the women who will continue to vote Republican even when it’s blatantly clear they want us to have no rights over our bodies.
SW-User
@Randi1125 I thought women had rights and choices when they made a baby with a man... I guess I was WRONG
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@SW-User

And that will be enough of you.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
I’m a Missourian and this is the first I’ve heard of it but I’m not surprised. Most voters in this state will love it. If I ever get my shit together I’m getting out of here and brushing the sand off my shoes.

So to clarify, it would be a felony to seek an abortion?
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Theyitis

Correct. They're also trying to pass it that women can't cross the state line to seek an abortion.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@Randi1125 Can they do that? What gives them the right to tell us what we can or can’t do in other states? I had always heard that when Roe v. Wade gets overturned it would be no big deal for the wealthy because they would simply travel to blue states to get their abortions.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@Theyitis

It's surreal, isn't it? How can this possibly be happening in 2022? Blame it on religious doctrine.
SW-User
It's all so stupid; this is basically just a form of "virtue signaling" even though they would never see it that way. "Look how much I'm doing to fight abortion! I'm going further than anyone else!" It's such a fucking ploy.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@SW-User

It’s funny that the people who scream loudest to get government out of religion are the ones working hardest to put religion in government.
TexChik · F
I would have to see the ectopic pregnancy restriction in writing for before I believe that. Libs have a habit of not telling the truth about that. Red states allow 6-8 weeks (depending on the state) to have an abortion. After that they consider it infanticide which is exactly what it is. However, they will take into consideration a situation when the pregnancy endangers the life of mother and allow the abortion. That would include ectopic pregnancies .
Piper · 61-69, F
I hadn't, but I'm not even surprised or shocked that it's being proposed. 😑
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
What concerns me is a proposed bill in Maryland (Senate Bill 669) that could allow for a baby to be killed after birth for the following 28 days.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Pherick I find it alarming that a pro-life site is considered "far-right" by some people. 😳

PS Where is "We rate LifeSiteNews..." from? "Reputable" sources such as CNN, or MSNBC? 😝
Pherick · 41-45, M
@ProfessorPlum77 Quite a few independent sites for rating media bias and the ability to post factual stories.

https://www.allsides.com
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

Then of course for just plain fact-checking

https://www.politifact.com/
https://www.factcheck.org/
https://www.snopes.com/

Feel free to educate yourself.

EDIT - He blocked me. What a child. I know its tough to face information that may cause you to re-think your worldview, but I had higher hopes for a "Professor". Sad.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Pherick So long, homie!!!
InHeaven · F
Anti-abortion law. Wow. That’s great. But I wonder why they went for that 🤔🤔🤔
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@InHeaven

So how many babies have you adopted? If it's anything less than 10, you're a hypocrite.

And why is there no accountability for men?

So if it’s a “person” that early, I assume courts will make fathers pay child support? Life insurance policies can be taken out too for an embryo? 🤔
InHeaven · F
I have not adopted because I am poor@Randi1125 but for the same reason I have not killed any... The hypocrite is you. Satisfying your vagina at the expense of others’ lives
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@InHeaven

Oh my goodness... I just can't.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
I know right? The GOP are dangerous idiots when it comes to topics about women, pregnancy, sexual health, rape, and abortion.

They seem to deliberately misunderstand and make up information.
@Scribbles Whatever helps them to have control over women.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
I have. I’m pro choice myself.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@MrBrownstone

❤️
Danerol · 31-35, M
Wow thats horseshit what gives them the right to do this, like why did they decide this is a good idea, or is it more of a case of they didnt think
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
sounds good to me; maybe the sluts will learn how to use birth control and/or keep their legs closed... 🤔
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@wildbill83 Please refrain from stating the obvious in your posts. It makes some people angry. 😃
The prison thing will never happen.
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@MarmeeMarch

I don't know why I'm responding to this but why are there no laws against the man who caused the pregnancy? Aren't they both breaking the law? Why are women being prosecuted but not men?

Shouldn't the sperm donor be prosecuted as an accomplice for not doing everything to prevent the murder of the cell clump?

And since women "are begging the state to force taxpayers to pay for medical procedures", why aren't the men who impregnated the woman paying for the medical bills? Shouldn't it be a law if she's forced to have the baby, the daddy needs to pay?
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@MarmeeMarch

You took too long. I have to go. You're probably Googling your response like you always do. 😂🤣
@Randi1125
Shouldn't it be a law if she's forced to have the baby, the daddy needs to pay?

87% of the time the woman does not know who the actual daddy is. So it's hard to make anyone pay.

But for the rest - sure the father should pay - half.
LoveKitty · 22-25, F
The Bible belt inspires a lot of false morality. I'm glad I don't live there.
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Fukfacewillie · 51-55, M
And banning out of state abortions, too. SCOTUS never should have gutted Roe with Casey.
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
Time for them to move
Randi1125 · 31-35, F
@SkeetSkeet

Or become celibate. Ha!
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@SkeetSkeet Or time to change government.
SW-User
Only in Yankeeland
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@SW-User Damn, I hope so.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@SW-User ??? Missouri’s not Yankeeland. We didn’t secede but we were a slave state, and it’s mainly states from the old Confederacy that are passing laws like this.
SW-User
@Theyitis Ok, I believed Missouri was always part of Canada
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SW-User
@TexChik that is so sad to think about. But it also is disturbing to think about some of these women that have babies and they don't care for them and are abused, etc. Its not the taxpayers responsibility its the women who opened their legs and weren't responsible. They need to pay.
TexChik · F
@SW-User I would agree to a taxpayer funded abortion if both parents agreed to be sterilized. Since being responsible is impossible for them, spay and neuter like dogs and cats...
SW-User
@TexChik yeah if they could prove who the father was without doubt they both could be sterilized. But I know one girl who has 5 kids by different men and could only identify one of the fathers. She had sex with so many men she didn't know half of their last names or even how to locate them. She was more than happy to be a welfare recipient.

 
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