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Why the right in the US support Putin

Putin is socially conservative authoritatarian just like the modern day rightwing in the US a strongman leader something wihch todays american right see favorably in a leader strongmans tactics in politics are very much admired by todays american right.
Basically, for the same reason many supported (and some [b]still[/b] support) Donald Trump. They equate a dictator or bully with [b]strength[/b]. It’s unfortunate.
antonioioio · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard that's well put 👍
antonioioio · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard also Trump tried to steal an election and had had plans if he got in again to stay in power for third term and maybe like Putin to stay in power for the rest of his time 🤔
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Because the right wing bigoted white nationalists see Russia as the “sole white power in the world.” Thus republican politicians know they can court the bigoted white nationalist vote by sucking up to Russia.

[quote]Former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke once called Russia, a majority white, Slavic country that frequently opposes the increasingly diverse European Union, the “key to white survival.” White supremacist leader Richard Spencer hailed Russia as the “sole white power in the world” in 2016. Republican approval of Putin grew stronger after Russia was seen by many as having helped Donald Trump win the 2016 presidential election (in part by targeting Black voters with propaganda).[/quote]

Tucker Carlson was courting those same bigoted white nationalists when he famously asked
[quote]Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia?[/quote]
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Who catalyzed the destabilization of Ukraine from the start? Tucker isn't in chg of US foreign policy, as far as I know.
@SteelHands Putin for one, and his oligarchs for a few others.

Ask yourself: why did the people of Ukraine have such huge and ongoing protests against Yanukovych, even after dozens of protesters were killed? Do you seriously believe you can pay people to get themselves killed?

Here's why they protested:

In Feb 2013, the Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had voted overwhelmingly (315 out of 349 =90%) to approve finalizing a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU);
[b]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Ukraine_Association_Agreement[/b]

In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests (known as Euromaidan) emerged in response to President Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign the EU agreement; instead trying to establish closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union. The people smelled a rat with Yanukovych's change of heart.

Those protests grew and grew with deadly battles between protesters and the Birkut "special riot police." From Wikipedia:
[quote]On 21 February [2014], an agreement between President Yanukovych and the leaders of the parliamentary opposition was signed that called for the formation of an interim unity government, constitutional reforms and early elections.[31] The following day, police withdrew from central Kyiv, which came under effective control of the protesters. Yanukovych fled the city and then the country.[32] That day, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328 to 0 (72.8% of the parliament's 450 members)[/quote]

BTW, regardless of Putin's propaganda about an "illegal government," the elections after Yanukovych's overthrow, elections of 25 May 2014, resulting in Petro Poroshenko's presidency, were 100% legal. And so were the two rounds of elections in 2019 (31 March & 21 April) that resulted in Zelenski's victory. Sorry, you can't turn the clock back and pretend the last eight years of Ukrainian government didn't happen.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
There’s a HUGE difference between Putin style USSR communism and “wannabe” right wing extremists in the US. I hope the US remains democratic.

Putin is a mad dictator who fears no one and who will kill, gas or poison anyone who stops him getting what he wants.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Contemporary right in the US has been massively populated by moderates that have dumped the Democrat tax and spend party in droves.

We respect human dignity, free speech, are opposed to lack of self discipline and rampant abandnment of family values.

How does that make me an authoritarian? It doesn't.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Yup. Money well spent. And I say keep on building that wall. So does about 80% of our recently arrived immigrants.

Space force? Yup. If you want to stay on top you need the higher ground. That's where its at these days. We have trillions in corporate communications assets up there and they will be protected.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SteelHands Okay, but don't complain when taxes go up and you're billed for that.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Elessar Never in history has a tax been repealed. The money was already allocated, and thew meter is still running.

When your guy Biden decides to stop using it to help the drug cartels by providing chaos at the border or we get new house/better prez, we'll resume the construction.

And the comsats? Well I am already paying a buck fifty a month for my share and been paying the max for decades for top shelf service.

Wasn't thinking it was up to you but if it is Let's go brandon! Fix those crazy energy costs and stop hurting the poor and helpin big oil willya?
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lumberjackslam · 41-45, M
The only thing conservatives admire about Russia is that it's the most traditional Western nation not progressive or woke. and Putin is at its head.
SW-User
@SteelHands Well, sadly your "educated scientists with teeny tiny minds" are in agreement, and their predictions about climate change are coming true, far faster than they anticipated.

Sorry you don't like it. Sorry you don't accept it. There's only one possible picture for people like you:

GrinNude · 61-69, C
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Well you've done a good job convincing yourself beyond learning anything new so good luck with it. Adios!
TaraNice · 36-40, F
This is very confusing! I thought the democrats supported Putin because they're commies? Or are they nazis, or both? Is Putin a commie or a nazi?
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
@TaraNice i think the idiots on both sides are going to milk it for whatever it's worth
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@TaraNice Technically they call it communist, but since the wall fell it's more like here. Corporatist without brakes is what's better referred to as quasi fascism, but even fascism frowns upon outright bribery and killing plaintiffs in a lawsuit.

A bit more civiized than Nazism however they have a mitilary endustrio complex that's dank asf.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Because their only reason of existing is casting as much misery and suffering on others as they can. So they'll support Putin, like they've outright supported a virus.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I think some of them respect Putin but I don't think they support him.

I'm not American but I don't see support for him on SW.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 Maybe they don't do openly much anymore, but the right and its leaders around the world have been praising him often over the years.

And when you remind them they don't seem to like it much
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcTyBt-1CVw]
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 Many Republicans appear silent on the issue....aka tacit support.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
There is a huge difference between understanding Putin's conducts and supporting.

US Oil interests interfering in the organic shift of Ukraine from a mutually beneficial bordering countries energy policy by US gvernment backed big oil was a gigantic screwup.

Making it even worse after the altercation through crowdstrike by diminishing their own creation by using him as a political pawn to attack Trump just shows how insane the topdog Democrats are.

WHo supported Putin? The Democrats did, ya twit.
deadgerbil · 22-25, F
That's why he has one of the loudest voices in American media(Tucker Carlson) on his side.
The USA right is conservative, agreed. Taking over foriegn nations is absolutely left wing Hitler stuff, also agreed. The thing about Putin is, its similar to as if the southern confederacy succeeded from the Northern Union. When the North decided enough is enough, no outside nation would prevent it.
smiler2012 · 56-60
{@spotpot ] they are so trump led who is a putin fan. nobody if they knew all the facts could endorse putins actions in ukraine
SW-User
All three of my Trump dolls like Putin so I gotta like him too oh well..
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F

 
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