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ZashaKitty At least I've cited something, if it's as easy as you say, you would've done the same. That's the favourite "argument" of those who really can't back their claims with anything concrete and objective. My data, for the record, come firsthand from the hospitals themselves - I've chosen my country's, but you can pretty much find equivalent data confirming my version from pretty much every other country that has gone through a wave ever since vaccination was received by a statistically significant percentage of the population.
Also to try and deny that a lot of vaccinated have not been getting infected lately
And here's the strawman. Either you completely lack the basic understanding of what we're speaking about, first and foremost ignoring the mere distinction between "hospitalization" and "cases", or you're just trying to climb on mirrors because evidently you have absolutely nothing on which your claims can stand up on.
Clearing up the fact that i am vaccinated was to show I am not anti vaccination
Again, correlation doesn't imply causation. Kennedy jr. himself is most likely triple vaxxed too, or he wouldn't be allowed by his own wife in his own home, as per his own declaration.
I am against this certain type of vaccine though due to what i went through after the second one was injected in me.
I've got hospitalized myself after taking penicillin, should we abolish antibiotics altogether? Better a double-digit unitary percentage of risk of dying from sepsis than the 0.00001% of having an anaphylactic reaction? Because your point about covid vaccinations is virtually identical (except, in the case of covid vaccinations you should paradoxically add another zero or two).
I really try not to have this conversation over and over again but seems you cant say your opinion with this without someone trying to disprove it and claim it is "B.S"..
Claims that aren't backed by evidence are objectively B.S. in this field, sorry if it hurts your feelings, but it is what it is.
Decision-making in secular first-world countries at least revolve around empirical observable evidence, not subjective opinions and faith. Vaccination is a medical matter, not a religious one, therefore it is governed by the very same principles and fundamentals that are at the basis of medicine and every other science. There isn't at the moment any evidence whatsoever that suggest vaccinated individuals are anywhere close to the risk of hospitalization of non-vaccinated individuals. If you have reason to think otherwise, get your reasons published and feel free to link them here anytime. You won't because there isn't any, so you'll continue with strawmans, ad-hominem and deflection.
So I will end this with you now and just say, have fun being told what to believe and just going with it despite all the ever growing evidence that it isn't doing what you all think.
It is doing *exactly* what it was designed for - the endpoint is preventing hospitalizations and deaths, which are the two measures that make this situation a "pandemic", not to protect the asses of antivaxxers who decided to rely on others to "protect" themselves. If it also protects from infection it's a bonus, nothing more. Do you think we'd have declared it "pandemic" if it could've been ignored without any impact on healthcare resources utilization (as any and every country attempted, failing, multiple times)? The hospitalization and death rate is all what matters, not the mere infection rate.
For the record, the only "poison" here is the stuff you probably read on conspiracy blogs and reiterate on here. Poison for the mind.
