It's not the Christian Republic of America, so why is it those who are religious can hold the bodies of secular women and of other religions hostage?

@Babylon The difference here is that in one instance, a minority is telling the majority that they need to be able to do the same things that the majority is able to. In the other instance, a minority is telling the majority that they need to stop doing something because the minority is choosing, willingly, not to do it.

In the case of LGBT people wanting things like gay marriage to be legal, the reason why a minority is justified in wanting the majority to change the law is because the very act of telling a group of people that they are legally prohibited from doing something that the majority CAN do, based entirely upon an arbitrary characteristic, is in and of itself wrong.

@BlueMetalChick I agree with you mostly. I don't think the west is truly against stopping people based on an arbitrary characteristic. Because I am against incestuous relationships, for example. They're a minority that wishes to ride the same argument the LGBT community gained acceptance for but even the LGBT community typically does not support incest. Some people are guilt tripped into morally supporting incest by highlighting this double standard but the masses don't press movements for incest rights. The majority of the modern western societies aren't convinced to accept that argument because that kinda points away from how minorities push their views on society. It is rather other than appealing to morals. Rather, to gain traction, it seems that instead of principles and values, it's literally more so about the movement strength and political position the movement has. This is why I disagree, you disagree, many women seem to disagree, the majority seems to disagree with the idea that a woman should [b]never[/b] be able to abort a baby, yet some places have the right to completely outlaw that. This is the power this minority has politically on this topic. (Hence why the main poster is upset with them because he wants majority rule) but we don't accept majority rule always and we don't strictly believe or implement moral justice.