HughManatee · 61-69, M
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Without becoming embroiled in your nation's lively domestic politics, have you, like me, noticed THE one fact missing from all the "leave the oil underground" campaigning and politics?
The one thing I have heard no journalist ask about either?
Nothing to do with politics or economics, but a simple fact I learnt half a century ago in school; probably Primary School at that.
It is this -
Petroleum is a fossil yes, but it is NOT.. I repeat NOT.. a "fossil fuel".
Fuels are derived from it, yes; but so is a very wide range of other compounds for all manner of materials and products on we have all come to rely.
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An immediate example? Look no further than the instrument on which you are reading this. Or at any number of substances, objects and purposes around your home, car, garden, in medicines, at work, etc., etc. Beyond that, the construction and operation of battery-driven vehicles, solar arrays, wind-turbines, nuclear-power stations, all the public utilities and services....
And many of those raw and finished-product materials on which those rely, presently have no practical, enviromentally-sustainable alternatives....
(Simiarly with coal - No end of people who should know, do not know the difference between Iron and Steel; have no idea that coal is not used for making Steel; nor why that until practical alternatives become widely available, coal and limestone are still fundamental to extracting Iron from its ore.)
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The whole field is too world-wide and too serious for petty political partisanship in individual countries. Above your politics, I see Saule Ormerova as yet another example of gigantic point-missing by politicians and officials barely knowing "energy" from "power" and their measurement units.
I do not know anything else about this lady but whatever you want us to think about her party loyalties, if you have quoted her fairly she seems as ignorant of school-level science and engineering as that Greta Tornberg lass.
Now, as a foreigner I am neutral on Saule Ormerova's politics; but I see much the same, serious, basic technical illiteracy in far too many politicians of all parties in many nations, including mine.
A little learning is said to be dangerous. Most of those politicians and campaigners, including Tornberg and perhaps Ormerova, mean well; but far too many seem to have forgotten any learning in the first place.
The one thing I have heard no journalist ask about either?
Nothing to do with politics or economics, but a simple fact I learnt half a century ago in school; probably Primary School at that.
It is this -
Petroleum is a fossil yes, but it is NOT.. I repeat NOT.. a "fossil fuel".
Fuels are derived from it, yes; but so is a very wide range of other compounds for all manner of materials and products on we have all come to rely.
'
An immediate example? Look no further than the instrument on which you are reading this. Or at any number of substances, objects and purposes around your home, car, garden, in medicines, at work, etc., etc. Beyond that, the construction and operation of battery-driven vehicles, solar arrays, wind-turbines, nuclear-power stations, all the public utilities and services....
And many of those raw and finished-product materials on which those rely, presently have no practical, enviromentally-sustainable alternatives....
(Simiarly with coal - No end of people who should know, do not know the difference between Iron and Steel; have no idea that coal is not used for making Steel; nor why that until practical alternatives become widely available, coal and limestone are still fundamental to extracting Iron from its ore.)
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The whole field is too world-wide and too serious for petty political partisanship in individual countries. Above your politics, I see Saule Ormerova as yet another example of gigantic point-missing by politicians and officials barely knowing "energy" from "power" and their measurement units.
I do not know anything else about this lady but whatever you want us to think about her party loyalties, if you have quoted her fairly she seems as ignorant of school-level science and engineering as that Greta Tornberg lass.
Now, as a foreigner I am neutral on Saule Ormerova's politics; but I see much the same, serious, basic technical illiteracy in far too many politicians of all parties in many nations, including mine.
A little learning is said to be dangerous. Most of those politicians and campaigners, including Tornberg and perhaps Ormerova, mean well; but far too many seem to have forgotten any learning in the first place.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Msharsh That is certainly a very clean fuel but its combustion still produces carbon-dioxide (and water).
The call to stop extracting coal and petroleum though, goes beyond the matter of fules. It neglects the point that they provide raw materials not available in any other sustainable way, or not available at all.
The call to stop extracting coal and petroleum though, goes beyond the matter of fules. It neglects the point that they provide raw materials not available in any other sustainable way, or not available at all.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Msharsh@laotzu92 By co-incidence I was talking today about natural-gas fired domestic boilers with a friend who is a registered gas-fitter and heating installer.
He told me the major heating-boiler manufacturers are already making them capable of using natural-gas diluted with hydrogen, (ultimately just hydrogen), simply by adjustments built into the design.
He told me the major heating-boiler manufacturers are already making them capable of using natural-gas diluted with hydrogen, (ultimately just hydrogen), simply by adjustments built into the design.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
PatKirby · M
@Thinkerbell
When I worked in the IT dept. of a university library a Leftist professor used to like calling me 'comrade'. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to give her a piece of my mind. So I came up with this...
A professor liked calling me Comrade
But soon I was found to be so Glad
She didn't know Squat
Of the bullsh*t she Taught
So she quit and moved out to Leningrad
When I worked in the IT dept. of a university library a Leftist professor used to like calling me 'comrade'. I can't tell you how many times I wanted to give her a piece of my mind. So I came up with this...
A professor liked calling me Comrade
But soon I was found to be so Glad
She didn't know Squat
Of the bullsh*t she Taught
So she quit and moved out to Leningrad
FreeSpirit1 · F
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
FreeSpirit1 · F
@HoraceGreenley she won't release her college dissertation on Marxism to the committee voting on her. I wonder why.
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
@FreeSpirit1 Those sneaky Marxists
HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
SilkandLace2 · 46-50, M
@Msharsh Nikki Haley as well
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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PatKirby · M
She would for sure put oil & gas companies on the no-lending list. This nomination probably won't make it through the Senate, but it's indicative of the anti-free market attitude of this administration who clearly ignore consequences.
I thought she wasn’t picked. Or am I wrong?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
I remember a time when Dem supporters didn’t call republicans fascists and rep supporters didn’t call Democrats Marxist’s
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
They are dickheads as well. @IronHamster
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Msharsh I’ve got over half a century of existence under my belt. Lol
Quite young in geological terms but yeah I guess I’m pretty old .
Used to be people were Dem or Rep for like 2 weeks before an election then things went back to normal.
Lots of people now self identify as Dem or Rep year round and hate the other side for whatever reason.
Quite young in geological terms but yeah I guess I’m pretty old .
Used to be people were Dem or Rep for like 2 weeks before an election then things went back to normal.
Lots of people now self identify as Dem or Rep year round and hate the other side for whatever reason.
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HoraceGreenley · 61-69, M
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Eliminate gasoline and this is what you get, the green dream
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Nancy Pelosi called it that. Are you a fan?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Trump Trump Trump
TheArbitrator · 36-40, M
It's inevitable. As per the coal industry, the vast majority of coal producers have already declared bankruptcy.
Msharsh · 46-50, F
@TheArbitrator not in china
jackjjackson · 61-69, M