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Remember When They Denied That Death Panels Existed?

[b]University of Colorado Hospital System Denies Woman’s Life-Saving Kidney Transplant; Will No Longer Provide Organ Transplants to Unvaccinated [/b]

One of Colorado’s largest hospital systems has implemented a new policy that denies organ transplants to patients who have not taken the experimental Covid-19 vaccine under “almost all situations.”

All organ donors will also have to be vaccinated under the new policy, and it has already stopped one woman from receiving the life-saving treatment she needs.

Last month, the University of Colorado Health sent a letter to Leilani Lutali informing her that her status on the waiting list for a kidney transplant was “inactivated” for “non-compliance” because she has chosen not to take the jab. She was given 30 days to take the shot, or else she would be removed from the transplant list completely.

Lutali, who has stage 5 renal failure, was told by the hospital in August that she wouldn’t need to be vaccinated to get her new kidney and was only made aware of the hospital’s new segregation policy when she received her letter in the mail – and only AFTER she was able to find a donor she knew who was willing to give her a kidney.

CBS4 Denver spoke with Lutali about the hospital’s policy and their reasoning behind foregoing the rushed vaccine, which she says has “too many unknowns.”

“I said I’ll sign a medical waiver. I have to sign a waiver anyway for the transplant itself, releasing them from anything that could possibly go wrong.

It’s surgery, it’s invasive. I sign a waiver for my life. I’m not sure why I can’t sign a waiver for the Covid shot.”

They also spoke with her donor – Jaimee Fougner – who was outraged that the hospital could decide not to operate when there is a kidney available that will save her friend’s life.

Like Lutali, Fougner is also not vaccinated.

“It’s your choice on what treatment you have. In Leilani’s case, the choice has been taken from her. Her life has now been held hostage because of this mandate.
Carla · 61-69, F
Other vaccinations have always been required before transplants.

People that have unhealthy habits that they wont abandon also get turned down.

Wasting something as extraordinary as an organ on someone that wont do everything possible to prolong their life is unacceptable to the medical community.

Seems you have unblocked me.
Time outs are for children, bud.
Treating adults as children is childish in itself.
I had sad that not all of them have been accepted. I know Pfizer has but only just recently. My point is that people have a right to be apprehensive about taking the vaccine. [@1201123,mikeylyksit]
mikeylyksit · 41-45, M
[@14748,Zebrawl] People can and SHOULD be apprehensive about taking any vaccine, whether it is a covid vaccine or not.

People can and should be apprehensive about not being vaccinated against Covid 19, also.

There is risk to be taken no matter what you do, or do not do. To do NOTHING is very risky. To get vaccinated is risky...although much less so.

You aren't getting through the pandemic without taking a risk of some kind.
Agree [@1201123,mikeylyksit]
TheOrdinaryGuy · 26-30, M
This is a non-story and nothing to do with the mandate.

Being vaccinated has [b]always[/b] been a requirement before certain surgeries, way before Covid 19. MMR, Diphtheria, Hepatitis, Influenza - it's super common.

You're way more vulnerable to disease and viral infection during a surgery, especially a transplant. Your body becomes stressed and the immune response is supressed during an operation, hence the need for extra defence via vaccination.

They probably asked this woman not to drink or smoke either - this isn't a trespass upon her freedoms, it's basic medical practice.

If she's not willing to get the vaccine, fine. But the hospital are well within their rights to offer transplants to patients who are willing to take all necessary precautions to maximise their chances of a successful operation.
TheOrdinaryGuy · 26-30, M
[@841775,Budwick] There really
isn't. The claim was that the [b][u]policy[/u][/b] was new. It's not, as confirmed by the hospital. They're of course going to update that policy as and when new deadly viruses emerge.

It's not surprising then that people are told pre-op that all vaccines need to be up to date, including Covid.
Budwick · 70-79, M
[@5851,TheOrdinaryGuy] You were wrong.
You ARE wrong.
You are always wrong!

That is the space cadet motto!
TheOrdinaryGuy · 26-30, M
[@841775,Budwick] I think you're off your rocker, but I respect the Spaceballs reference.
There's all kinds of things that can get you pulled from the list. Because there are less organs than there are people that need them.

You need a liver and take a single drink of booze? Off the list.

It's not that it isn't awful to think we have to do this too people; its that we already do this for so much more than just this vaccine.
Budwick · 70-79, M
[@802348,JoeyFoxx] [quote]I am intentionally being an ass.[/quote]

And you wonder why you get blocked?
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@841775,Budwick] as I’ve explained many times before, I don’t wonder why I get blocked.

At all.

People like you and your willful disregard for reality are what is making the US weaker.

It’s shameful.

How’s the vote recount going there big guy?
[@841775,Budwick] I would disagree its an abuse of power
AbbeyRhode · F
I never cease to be amazed at the capacity some people have for pure, heartless, soulless evil. Fortunately, they do not represent all humans.
curiosi · 56-60, F
This is the beginning of it. Soon anyone who refuses the jab will be denied medical attention.
Virgo79 · 56-60, M
The country is crumbling around us
Iwillwait · M
Strange seeing how you have to sign your rights away as a recipient to not be able to sue the hospital for getting an HIV, Or any blood pathogens in your received organ.
jackj · 56-60, M
I’ve taken lots of drugs being tested with little or no approvals. Some perhaps kept me alive long enough that one eventually came along that fixed me. I’m a lucky man to have had this opportunity. Without it I’ve have been long dead. Lots of missed graduations, weddings, opportunities to provide help and an ear for listening if asked. Have I accumulated a nice list of side effects most permanent along the way? Sure. I knew if I was lucky enough to live I’d some a number (who knew what) but I really couldn’t of all that many much worse than being dead.

We are at least most of us anyways and knew from the beginning that these shots/vaccines whatever technically they are IF available would net save way more people than if not available and that due to the transmission process of this disease it would be likely that proof of having it would be required for certain things. When we got the shot we were glad to get it and implicitly agree to all of it.

During the course of Covid treatments and shots/vaccines being developed if I happened to be the one dead one so that 10K lived sounds like an overall good deal as opposed to say a 25% chance of being dead due to nothing being done. Doesn’t make me or anyone who thinks that a way a hero or a dope. It’s math.

Do what does society do about those who refuse shots/vaccines? We KNOW that the non vaxerd mixing ruleless among the general population is just plain stupid.

Back in the days of leper camps it wasn’t dissimilar. The victims were isolated. Totally isolated. Was it their fault? Of course not. The vast majority knew they shouldn’t mix with the general population and were glad to do what they did based on the math.

This isn’t a fun situation. We see dying anti vaxxers on tv telling other anti vaxxers to get the shot. Non dissimilar to a person being saved by Jesus while being rolled into the gas chamber or its equivalent. Perhaps not dissimilar liar to a death bed confession.

When it comes to mass death personal freedoms must get partially and temporarily suspended due to math. Sure every individual story is sad assuming the? facts are right.

Society must be ruthless ultimately. You know it. .
MarshaA · 46-50, F
This is just sickening. I once heard that health insurance companies were flying their sick patients to places like Thailand or India for complex heart surgeries, because it was a fraction of the cost. I hope that if this lady isn't dead yet, they can get her to another country for this life saving operation. But I'm sure Biden would put a halt to this and just let her die.
Budwick · 70-79, M
[@802348,JoeyFoxx] [@802348,JoeyFoxx] [quote]I’m sick and fucking tired of people like you making life miserable for the rest of us who have to carry your dead ass weight. [/quote]

Keep harassing visitors Joey - you will be on the outside looking in again.
MarshaA · 46-50, F

I don't know if you know this or not, but there was a post about you last week by someone that you blocked. All the people you blocked chimed in and patted themselves on the back for being in the same club.

So here you have a group of adults, throwing a party because they were dumb enough and rude enough to be kicked out of your club. I just found it so strange, but I forgot about it.

But now you release some of these dorks from prison, and they criticize you for their release. LMAO

When you join this site they ask what level of nudity is OK.

I think they should also have a choice for the level of stupidity you'll accept.

Dang, I'd have it set on the lowest level of stupidity. I like to debate, but not with someone just filled with blind hate for themselves and others.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@841775,Budwick] please, do me the honor.

Your willful ignorance is exhausting.

Still counting votes are ya?
Slightly off topic, but did you see that Biden now wants the ability to access checking and savings accounts without a federal warrant? Saw the article in Business Insider.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@573519,PrivateHell] for what it’s worth, I don’t think most people will support this.

The Maine legislature is going to block it and I believe most states (red or blue) will push back.

It’s a waste of government resources and a flagrant violation of search and seizure restrictions.

The courts would likely block it too.

Not that this has anything to do with vaccinations.
[@802348,JoeyFoxx] kind of why i started with the disclaimer "slightly off topic..." but thank for pointing out it had nothing to do with vaccines.

As for whether it is legal or will pass or not, this President has already shown he really doesn't care what the law or courts say, if he wants something. He even stated over his illegal rent deferment agenda that he didn't know if it was legal or not, he was just going to do it and let the courts decide.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@573519,PrivateHell] sounds quite similar to the guy he replaced

And this isn’t “slightly off topic”

It’s a new topic entirely
That's all kinds of wrong.
That is such bullshit!! But hey, no one's threatening us to get the vaxx....
Fucking control freaks! 🤬
MotherHubbard · 56-60, F
Lol? Death panels!
But you oppose single payer medical care.
You're chaotic and contradictory and killing Americans.
Blame China because we the people can't help you.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@1234271,MarshaA] I bet you think you know why
MotherHubbard · 56-60, F
[@1234271,MarshaA] and we never vote to change the transit system. American lives don't matter.
It's a fascist system.
MotherHubbard · 56-60, F
[@802348,JoeyFoxx] isn't this fun? Just cluttering up the post. Fascists.
Adstar · 51-55, M
So it's a Death Penalty now for not taking the Vax in the USA now? Don't even need a Court hearing or a judges decision.. Just some board members of some Uni Hospital can sentence you to death for not being vacced.. Wow.. It's a wonder that board members don't get tracked down by hitmen and wasted these days..
Asificair · M
How the cookie crumbles 🤷‍♂️
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
[@1234271,MarshaA] I know exactly why I get blocked.

I rarely know why I get un-blocked.
MarshaA · 46-50, F

Why do you choose to be hated? Are you the same in real life?

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