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I Will Not Sugar Coat What Is Happening in Afghanistan. It Is Bad, Will Get Worse and Could Have Been Prevented.

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OnlyRhonda · 36-40, F
People never learn from History. Britain had three Afghan Wars; Russia had one or two. The Sikhs occupied Eastern Afghan- all had to fight for their lives, but this present situation is disgraceful.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@OnlyRhonda

We're not getting our asses kicked, like the Brits and Ruskies did.

We CHOSE to leave.

Every loss of life is sad, but keep in mind we lost more military personnel in a few hours at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 than we have in 20 years in Afghanistan.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@beckyromero Wars aren’t measured in casualties. Soviet casualties in Afghanistan were totally sustainable, nothing close to, say, Vietnam. But there was no point so they left. That’s why we’re leaving now.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@QuixoticSoul

I was countering the idea that we left because of casualties.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul And leaving behind 10,000 American citizens, right? But then again, Americans are not high on the priority list of demonocrats
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@beckyromero Neither we not the Soviets left because of casualties. We simply lost and so did they.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 They will be evacuated over the next few days, but you'll still be whining.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul And to bad about those 10,000 Americans, and the Afgahn supporters of ours, right?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Americans will get out, Afghans are likely fucked - but nobody forced them to take their chances on the civil war, most of them haven’t even applied for visas yet.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@QuixoticSoul
Neither we not the Soviets left because of casualties. We simply lost and so did they.

We did NOT lose.

The two situations are not comparable.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@beckyromero Absolutely comparable. If you leave because you can’t get your goals accomplished militarily - you lost.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@QuixoticSoul
most of them haven’t even applied for visas yet.

Where do you want them to get it?

At the closed U.S. embassy? 🤨
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Yup, screw them for supporting the United States, that will teach the world how much the demonocrats care about anyone else, right?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649

This was a disgraceful bi-partisan abandonment of our Afghan allies and the Afghan people (particularly women) who looked to us for their future well-being.

You of all should know how much I criticized Trump for negotiating with the Taliban in the first place.

But if you want to know who doesn't want to bring our Afghan allies to safety, you can start with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

GOP rift opens up over resettling Afghan refugees

https://thehill.com/policy/international/568646-gop-rift-opens-up-over-resettling-afghan-refugees
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 I’d never collaborate with Americans lmao, this story repeats every time. But anyone still over there who didn’t complete their visa applications at this point was likely planning to stay after we left.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 You are now out of sync with Hidin' Insurrectionist Baby-trump. Time to re-think your purpose or turn in your "[Baby-]trump Card."
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@QuixoticSoul
Absolutely comparable. If you leave because you can’t get your goals accomplished militarily - you lost.

As you know, I have argued that we could have INDEED used our military to accomplish our goals in Afghanistan.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@MarkPaul
@sunsporter1649 You are now out of sync with Hidin' Insurrectionist Baby-trump. Time to re-think your purpose or turn in your "[Baby-]trump Card."

Maybe he's had a change of heart. Fine with me.

I'm happy to flip a Trumpet.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@beckyromero Exactly - it was known a year out that we were leaving and taking our embassy with us. Anyone who didn’t bother to apply was never coming.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@beckyromero I don't know... he needs to be vetted.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@QuixoticSoul

Maybe you should actually take a look at what the process entailed.

We created enough red tape for these people to string it to the moon and back.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Sure, it repeats every time, just look at South Korea and Berlin, right?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 More bullshiff from an insurrectionist wing nut.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649
Sure, it repeats every time, just look at South Korea and Berlin, right?

Nice. You must have been copying my notes after class. Just don't get caught copying my test answers, too. 😉
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@MarkPaul

Oh, but @sunsporter1649 is right about "South Korea and Berlin."

And I would add Japan to the list.

It was a nice counter-jab. You have to give credit when credit is due. 😉
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@beckyromero Yeah, but according to sippy-cup Hidin' Insurrectionist Baby-trump that's a sign of weakness.