Anyone else disgusted at Portland's mayor and city council?

@Elessar Ah, so you support 54 nights of rioting. Wonderful folk, you are

@sunsporter1649 The two things can be a problem at once.

@SW-User Keep supporting the insurrectionists, at the expense of law-abiding citizens. Amazing

@sunsporter1649 Nope.

@sunsporter1649 And how does opposing potentially anti-constitutional bad policing reminiscent of a fascist regime imply I must necessarily support rioting? Where the f*ck have I said I support riots? For f*ck sake, are you so brain-dead that automatically whoever doesn't agree with your questionable idiot-in-command is automatically a "communist"/rioter?

@Elessar 54 straight nights of rioting, and yet you approve. Amazing. Did it ever occur to you that the Constitutional Rights of the law-abiding citizens are being trampled so you can bitch about Homeland Security protecting government and private property? Nah, I understand, just collateral damage, it's far more important to continue the insurrection in a rather sick attempt to throw an election. Youse guys amuse me

@sunsporter1649 So you are indeed brain-dead. Reread carefully and slowly my opening post and my previous comment. Count to 10. Re-read them both again. Take a breath, oxygenate your brain, and then reply.

It'll be a court to determine whether people (or agents) are culpable of causing disorders, by the way, neither me nor you.

@JAYS21 No, I wasn't suggesting him that, just to oxygenate his brains and discuss rationally.

@Elessar [quote] police kidnapping random people, if it turns to be true.[/quote]

It's not true.
People identified as rioters are sometimes picked up later, in other places for the protection of the officers as well as the perp. It's not an unusual practice.

@Budwick I'll let investigations determine if it's true, not supporters of one side or the other. Especially after seeing video and photo evidence.

Besides: [u]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-race-protests-agents-idUSKCN24M2RL?utm_source=34553&utm_medium=partner[/u]

@Elessar LOL, you would not believe the sky is blue if a Conservative said it

@sunsporter1649 I don't have any problems at all with conservatives, only with extremists (and in that regards, also with extremists at the opposite side) that assume they're above the Judiciary.

@Budwick Bullshit. People blocks away from the federal buildings are being grabbed, questioned, and released the second they ask for a lawyer. This is basically to appeal to authoritarians like you who want to live in a dictatorship as long as it’s not your side being roughed up.

@LeopoldBloom "Portland Riots Read-Out: July 23
Release Date: July 23, 2020
The Bottom Line:
As they have for the past 54 straight days, violent anarchists continue to riot on the streets of Portland as federal law enforcement officers work diligently and honorably to enforce federal law by defending federal property and the lives of their fellow officers.

After days of violent anarchists’ repeated attacks on the courthouse resulting in multiple damages to the federal courthouse DHS made the decision to put up a stronger fence around the courthouse perimeter. This new, more secure fencing became a target of repeated attack by rioters throughout the course of the evening. Federal officers were again assaulted with projectiles, mortar style fireworks and lasers – which can cause permanent blindness.

The Past 24 hours:
Around dusk the crowd started to gather. It quickly grew to over 2,000 individuals and spilled into the two city parks adjacent to the Federal Center and Justice Center.

Around 10:30 p.m. local time, rioters started to launch mortar-style fireworks over the fence at the federal courthouse and officers.

Rioters also started to attack the fence surrounding the courthouse. In response, federal officers warned the perpetrators to stop their attempts to damage federal property. Instead, rioters threw garbage and other objects over the fence in response. Reports indicated that ball bearings were also being shot against the fence and at the officers inside the perimeter.

Consistent with tactics employed in previous nights, rioters attacked federal officers’ eyes with lasers – which can cause permanent blindness.

Around 10:30 p.m. local time, rioters attempted to push over the fence while rioters also started to throw flaming objects over it. Mortar-style fireworks continued to be launched at federal property and officers as well.

At around 11:15 p.m. local time, DHS officers continued to urge those present from attempting to damage or breach the fence.

At 11:45 p.m. local time, DHS officers moved out to defend the fence from rioters and were immediately attacked with lasers. Rioters continued to throw rocks and commercial grade fireworks. They also began to launch a caustic substance resembling paint at officers inside the perimeter of the fence.

Throughout this time, DHS officers continued to repeatedly warn the crowd against attacking the fence or entering federal property. Firework mortars continued to be launched by the violent anarchists with one exploding in the entryway of the federal courthouse.

At 12:01 a.m. local time, the doors of the Edith Green Federal building were vandalized.

At 12:30 a.m. local time. Portland Police (PPB) declared an unlawful and riotous assembly. Both PPB and Federal law enforcement began to make warnings about the riot declaration.

During the 1 am hour, multiple Molotov cocktails were thrown over the fence at the courthouse as rioters continued to attack officers with mortar-style fireworks and lasers.

Around this time, a fire also started inside the fence and rioters made two more separate attempts to tear down the fence while conducting heavy laser attacks against federal officers.

During the evening’s violence one CBP officer suffered a chemical burn resulting from a caustic substance thrown by rioters, another suffered a possible broken toe, one suffered a severe blow to his face from a hard object. FPS reported nine new injuries to officers as well.

9 total arrests were conducted by DHS officers."

Nah, just a bunch of folks out ambling along at 3am with molotov cocktails in their back pockets, nothing to see here, move along

@sunsporter1649 FPS should protect the federal buildings, that’s their job. Other parts of town should be protected by the police.

Would you support disbanding local police forces and replacing them with a federal force?

@LeopoldBloom LOL, already been done.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/20501-obama-chooses-six-cities-to-test-federal-police-scheme

@LeopoldBloom Riots or not, my concern as stated in the opening post is still about the use of unmarked police forces and potentially anticonstititional kidnaps. Two wrongs don't make a right.

And maybe link an article about it from a non-biased source if you want anyone to take it seriously.

@Elessar Ah, I see, if the perp is not caught at the scene, smoking gun in hand, then nobody gets arrested for murder, right?

@sunsporter1649 Can you understand what you read or do you habitually make implications in your head to cover the fact you're out of arguments? Since when does the U.S. perform systematic "arrests" through the use of unmarked police forces and kidnapping, KGB style?

@Elessar Since when are perps allowed to roam free unless they are caught at the scene, smoking gun in hand?

@sunsporter1649 Again, since you're obtuse, can you understand what you read or do you habitually make implications in your head to cover the fact you're out of arguments? Since when does the U.S. perform systematic "arrests" through the use of unmarked police forces and kidnapping, KGB style?

@Elessar Does the word "detective" ring a bell?