@TacoTuesday That's my entire point. She DID engage in actions that were more than protest and resistance to war, and resulted in actual harm to others. But Jane Fonda's death count is far, far lower than the American government itself. If you wanna piss on Fonda's grave then you should also wanna piss on Diem's grave, and Kennedy's, and anyone else in that administration who made the decision to spray cancer-causing herbicide all over US soldiers.
I am a Quaker and was definitely opposed to the Vietnam War.
At the same time, I was in college and eligible for a student deferment, but never applied for one. Before the advent of the draft lottery system, the predominant proportion of our soldiers were blacks, poor, and other minorities. I did not feel that it was fair that they should have to serve as cannon fodder in a war to serve a country which did not offer them the same advantages as a white upper-middle class student like myself received. Their deaths protected my position in society.
I would never have volunteered to fight in a foreign war like Vietnam - which is not to say that I would not have volunteered if our country was actually under attack - but I would have served if I had been drafted. Luckily for me - unlike my brother-in-law who felt the same as I did - I was never drafted.
I strongly supported the anti-war movement - including Jane Fonda. I can't say the same about her exercise videos with which my first wife became enamored.
@Quakertrucker My grandfather lived in Czechoslovakia during the Second World War and successfully hid his Romani ethnicity by paying a forger to falsify documents claiming he was a Czech national of Turkish ancestry. He was nearly drafted into the Nazi military but his father, my great grandpa, intentionally starved him for weeks before the recruiters arrived in Prague, forcing him to wake at dawn and refusing to allow him to sleep more than four hours per night. When he was examined for potential service, he looked so sickly and unhealthy that they denied him. His father had abused him temporarily to make him seem unfit to be drafted into the army.
@TacoTuesday I’m just saying that if someone doesn’t want to serve their country, there are medical reasons to be excluded, including a bad case of hemorrhoids. That’s all. 😝
@VeronicaJane Isn't that the truth. From Agent Orange to Vietnamese torture techniques, the horror stories never stopped.
And I know just how bad torture is from personal experience. I was born in Sana'a, Southern Yemen, and at the age of twelve I was tortured for six days by Saudi militants because they thought I was a "Houthi insurgent" when really I was just a dirty homeless bitch.
@strongbow No, I was not banned. If you received a notification about a report, then it would have been for an alternate account. I had two, one called BlueMetalChickie, and another called BlueMetalBitch. You ARE allowed to have more than one SW profile but I was using both of them for stuff I wasn't really supposed to be doing.
I haven't "fooled" half the website with anything. If you're gonna insist I'm fake, then you need something to base it off of. So, what is that thing? Have you seen me using fake pics? Have you traced my account to an email in a name that isn't mine? Have you doxxed me? Have you found other social media profiles that suggest or even prove I'm not who I say I am? These are all possibilities.
Do you remember that the DoD kept lying about the numbers of remaining Viet Cong? Do you remember the monthly tolls of the number of American lives taken to serve this "police action"?
A draft which is USED makes wars not drag on when there is no end in sight, no real gain to be made, and only a stream of dead and wounded bodies to show for it. It also puts Presidents & Congresses on notice that war should be waged seriously or not at all.
Nope. She was young, and dumb, and later regretted what she did. Plus Vietnam was a real fucked up situation the United States should not have gotten involved in.