When Jane Fonda dies, are you going to be patriotic enough to piss on her grave?

@Entwistle All because she condemned the most unpopular war in American history.

@Entwistle Oh wait, actually, my mistake. Second-most unpopular war. Afghanistan recently took the title for lowest approval among Americans, at a paltry 15%.

@TacoTuesday Up until 2017, Vietnam had the highest disapproval rating when polled among Americans.
Oh but I guess stating historical fact is "not knowing my history." I should have consulted a Magic Eight Ball instead.

@TacoTuesday I decide who my enemies are not my government. I admire Muhammed Ali's stance on Vietnam. What a guy.

@TacoTuesday She did less damage to American soldiers than the American government did. How many US soldiers ended up with cancer from being doused with Agent Orange? But Jane Fonda is a supervillain for distributing prisoner of war documents?

@TacoTuesday That's my entire point. She DID engage in actions that were more than protest and resistance to war, and resulted in actual harm to others. But Jane Fonda's death count is far, far lower than the American government itself. If you wanna piss on Fonda's grave then you should also wanna piss on Diem's grave, and Kennedy's, and anyone else in that administration who made the decision to spray cancer-causing herbicide all over US soldiers.

@BlueMetalChick

I am a Quaker and was definitely opposed to the Vietnam War.

At the same time, I was in college and eligible for a student deferment, but never applied for one. Before the advent of the draft lottery system, the predominant proportion of our soldiers were blacks, poor, and other minorities. I did not feel that it was fair that they should have to serve as cannon fodder in a war to serve a country which did not offer them the same advantages as a white upper-middle class student like myself received. Their deaths protected my position in society.

I would never have volunteered to fight in a foreign war like Vietnam - which is not to say that I would not have volunteered if our country was actually under attack - but I would have served if I had been drafted. Luckily for me - unlike my brother-in-law who felt the same as I did - I was never drafted.

I strongly supported the anti-war movement - including Jane Fonda. I can't say the same about her exercise videos with which my first wife became enamored.

Quakertrucker

@Quakertrucker My grandfather lived in Czechoslovakia during the Second World War and successfully hid his Romani ethnicity by paying a forger to falsify documents claiming he was a Czech national of Turkish ancestry. He was nearly drafted into the Nazi military but his father, my great grandpa, intentionally starved him for weeks before the recruiters arrived in Prague, forcing him to wake at dawn and refusing to allow him to sleep more than four hours per night. When he was examined for potential service, he looked so sickly and unhealthy that they denied him. His father had abused him temporarily to make him seem unfit to be drafted into the army.