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What are your thoughts about muslims?

I especially want to ask this to ppl from europea and usa. How do u ( would you ) feel about seeing many muslims in ur country ? How would u feel if one day muslim population gets the majority of ır country ?
(I am asuming muslims in general are just as loyal as the nonmuslims to the laws)
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Platinum · M
I think it's wrong that they try to impose their laws on us and build mosques...if you want to live in another country, you should live by their laws ....mho
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

Once again, if Maher is such a self-contradicting idiot, then why can't you (or Rose)specifically refute anything he said in the clip? And it was a 5-6 minute conversation, not a sound bite, as you so disingenuously pretend. 🤭

In fact, everything Maher said about the Pew poll to which he referred was absolutely correct. Vast numbers of Muslims in Egypt, for example, DO believe stoning is an appropriate punishment for adultery, and that death is an appropriate punishment for apostasy. The hypocrite Rose, at 2:40 in the clip, even admits in an unguarded moment that he knows these things to be true, and this after having given all the usual claptrap and false equivalences between Islam and Christianity (just as you did). 😂

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Well based on all evidence there is everyone who agrees with you and liberals and a third category consisting of a lone Ayatollah.

Wrong again, as always. I don't agree with Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping or Kim Jong-un either, and I never said they were liberals. Do you need more examples? There are plenty.

And so you muffed it yet again. You're still batting 1,000 in the bungling department.😂🤭😂
@Thinkerbell You cite a comedian who can't get anything straight even in his own mind and an opinion poll. I actually worked in that field so I know polls are a bad joke that can be manipulated anyway you want. How about statistics...something scientific instead of just a few opinions based on opinions three times removed. Statistically you are more likely to die in the US from a TV falling on your head then from a terrorist attack. But don't let pesky things like statistics involving more the 50 people get in your way.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

And if the comedian "can't get anything straight", then why can't either you or Rose successfully refute him? Rose even admits at 2:40 in the clip that he knows what Maher is saying about Egyptian Muslims is true.

And what do you say about the Pew poll? "I know polls are a bad joke that can be manipulated any way you want."

So Pew, no doubt, "manipulated" their poll so as to make Muslims in Egypt look bad. Uh-huh. The real numbers must be that only 0.1% of Muslims there think death would be an appropriate punishment for apostasy, but instead Pew fudged the numbers up to 80%. Tell us another one, Pictures. 😂

And this from the "statistician" who can't figure out that when 50 out of 56 child-groomers are Muslim, when Muslims comprise only 5% of the population, it says something significant about their culture.
Those groomers must have also had a lot of customers for the children they abducted, and there is no way their activities could not have been common knowledge in the broader community, who mostly said nothing, either out of fear or out of tacit approval.

There once was a sham statistician,
Who predictably made the admission:
"If the numbers are spiking
Averse to my liking,
I fudge them, to further my mission."


And your blunder batting average is still 1,000. 😂 🤭 😂
SW-User
Idk. Tbh they make me uncomfortable.
Gettingolder · 70-79, M
@SW-User "If you used common sense you would understand the difference between a government and a religion." I've been to many muslim countries. Many are like Saudi Arabia, where the koran IS the law book of the government. There are police in blue cars who will give you a traffic ticket, and police in green cars who will arrest and imprison any woman in public without a male family escort. The police will also arrest anyone not praying downtown at 2:00pm.
ScabbyHeart · 46-50, M
@Gettingolder the the police foreigners? how come they are not praying?
@Kenscoff
A political act rather than a religious one.

Islam is a political ideology parading as a religion, but Islamists first attacked the United States in 1784, and the reasons they cited then are exactly the same as the reasons they cite now. They claim it is their sacred duty to subdue the infidels. Their reasons are based on 164 verses in the Quran that demand war on non believers. My favorite is Surah 8:12.
"[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every finger"

On a positive note, the Islamists in Syria have caused a peak in conversion to Christianity with their insidious behavior. Now that they are all but decimated, Muslims are converting to Christianity in droves in the areas where DAESH tormented them the most.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
I just see them as people. No more no less.
I don't feel uncomfortably at all around Muslim folk. They have done me no harm whatsoever.
I haven’t had any problems with anyone Muslim, personally. It’s a hard question, because I’m told a few of my ancestors were already in this country when a whole bunch of European Christians showed up. And they took over. 😳
I am a Muslim..

I just dont understand why you make immigration by one or many as an occupation and envasion of another country... and breaking law has got nothing to do with one's religion, but behavior...
@Wiseacre

Certainly you like the way you think... that is probably why you are not open to facts..
Wiseacre · F
@Soossie lol..facts are maneuverable!
@Wiseacre

So, you create and choose your own facts...

Amazing..
Carazaa · F
I am a Christian. Jesus says love God and all people, so I want to help anyone who is persecuted in their country. Many are Christians who are persecuted in their countries. But I love all people regardless of their religion and if they need my help I will never turn them away. Jesus said "When they were thirsty, you gave them water, when they were hungry you gave them food. As much as you did it for them, you did it for me" This is a test from God. He says "These are my disciples if you love one another" True Christians are loving!
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Carazaa Loving your comments ❤️
Carazaa · F
@windinhishair Thank you for your comment!❤️
Carazaa · F
@SimplyTracie Thank you for your comment❤️
Peapod · 61-69, F
I judge people according to their actions. I couldn't care less of their religion or culture, as long as they are decent human beings.

Some of the nastiest people I have ever met go to church on a Sunday.
SuperA · 70-79, F
@Peapod 🤔.....very interesting!! We are just so charming!! LOL
Peapod · 61-69, F
@SuperA, yes we are! 😘🥰😘
@SuperA You know it mama. 😜
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
I am working since 6 years with refugees and I would say that A VERY BIG PART of my clients are Muslims. Most of them are really nice people. And the few "bad ones" are bad because of the person they are and not because of their religion. It is the same that also not all of us Christians are "angels."

Or to say it with a few words: I agree fully with the comment of @Entwistle.

And my own, personal thought is this: I NEVER mind the religion of someone. The inner person is more important to me.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Loretta78 Agreed 😊
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
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NCCindy · 36-40, F
I'm fi e with anyone as lo g as they respect my beliefs as I respect theirs and they want to live in peace.
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@Soossie

Oh sorry beautiful... this wasnt supposed to be a comment on your answer.. it was supposed to be an individual answer to the question and the asker...

Sorry for that...
I think theyre cool people.
@Dewms They give me the HEEBIE JEEBIES
SW-User
My same thoughts about Christians, and every other religion. Your gods do not exist. Instead of dedicating your time, energy and resources towards helping people live better lives, you proselytize and condemn other people because they believe in something you dont.
Chickie · F
@SW-User Not all believers are like that. Who are you to tell others who they can and can't believe in?
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ScabbyHeart · 46-50, M
@Kenscoff And Christians have also been responsible for horrendous crimes throughout history...
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Muslims are people like anyone else. I don't have any strong feelings about them beyond sympathy for the fact that they face incredible persecution and of course the geopolitical issues of Wahabbist terrorism.

What a lot of people don't get is that most Muslim immigrants in western nations are first generation ones and subsequent generations settle into a comfortable niche. All the bigoted nonsense we hear about Muslims people were shouting about Catholics a hundred years ago. This ain't new.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
They're people, like everyone else. Many are cool. Many are shit. And ideologues are dangerous.
SW-User
I like Muslims
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@SW-User Ty 😊
They are human beings just like the rest of us, and should be treated as such, whether you agree with their lifestyle or not.
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@AMERICA1ST Sir, please read my comment again. I did not say anything about Americans surrendering their religion for Muslims, or anyone for that matter. That would be going against the American Constitution which states that there is freedom of religion, wouldn't it? 😉
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
Ι don't form an opinion about anyone a priori, I don't think anything about Muslims in general, just what I think about other people as well. I do see quite a lot everyday (because I live in the capital, other areas do not have that many) and I'm kinda close to a muslim girl from university.
I myself am not religious and I don't care about what religion most of the population follows.
SW-User
So like everyone converted to Islam in the country?
JP1119 · 36-40, M
@Platinum Is that a trait that’s unique to Muslims though? It seems to me that it often happens that they say a mass murderer was always nice and quiet regardless of whether or not he was Muslim. Lots of white guys that shot up a lot of people have been described as quiet and nice.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@JP1119
Lots of white guys that shot up a lot of people have been described as quiet and nice.

I am not Platinum, and I don't pretend to speak for him, just my two cents.

In the case of the white guys issue, those that ascribe to the same manifesto or reasoning behind the shooting should be suspect as well.
Platinum · M
@JP1119 not really but this post is about Muslims and so I've used them as the example...
I'm pretty sure I'm going to regret answering this and end up asking with idiots. But here i go anyway. They are not fundamentally bad people. The same as i feel like not all Christians are bad. Yes i believe there are some of both sects that are downright evil and live for nothing but hatred. But i refuse to live my life assuming everyone i meet is the radicalised person responsible for 9/11 any more than i want to believe every person i meet is a radicalised Christian living in a compound hoarding weapons claiming to be Jesus. I'll judge on case by case basis for all religions. All religions.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@CallmeHopelessNotRomantic any thougt is welcome for me except the ones against human/animal rights 💚
@ordinaryguy I'm almost never on here anymore because of the insane number of people who are only looking to argue. I especially hate to see them argue for one thing and two posts down they feel the need to play "devils advocate" no wonder the world is in chaos.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@CallmeHopelessNotRomantic undorrunately internet made it easy for ppl to be irrespectful. Actually having internet is a great chance to share ideas openly. This way many ppl can see that actually how much we are alike no matter how geographically far we live in
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@SW-User Every bomber in Northern Ireland would call themselves proud Christians. Not sure how you work out I am a hypocrite. You are the only one who expects only one group to apologize for every lunatic that claims their religion.
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@SW-User Sounds like desperate justification.
Well the world just evolves that way. I have no problem with them.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Just another bunch of people wasting their time praying to a god who isnt there.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch Or anti abortion law, or withholding medical treatment on religious grounds. Or forcing marriages or circumcision.
@whowasthatmaskedman yep yep and yep
@whowasthatmaskedman that withholding medical treatment is just - justifiable child abuse
SW-User
I’ve never been harmed by a Muslim. Quite the opposite actually. So... why would I feel uncomfortable ? I have Muslim friends around me, they’re cool folks.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@SW-User cuz in some countries politicians and media is trying to make a bad reputatipn of muslims
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JP1119 · 36-40, M
@puck61 I never said the founding fathers were non-religious, I said they believed all religions should be treated equally. I know some of you conservatives refuse to see the world in anything but black and white, but to those of us who can see shades of gray that’s a big difference.
@JP1119 It seems to me that the left sees all kinds of colors, and cloud waterfalls , dancing trees, and esoteric jig saw puzzles in the sky! Like I recently said, 'the left is it's own demise.' because of the sheer madness that manifests in their policies and ideas.
JP1119 · 36-40, M
@puck61 Experience forms part of the equation too, but some people’s minds are more predisposed to being left-wing, and other people’s minds are more predisposed to being right-wing. That’s what science tells us. As a Christian myself, I believe that God made us that way. He must have had a reason for making some people more left-wing and others more right-wing. So there’s nothing inherently wrong, stupid, or shameful about being either left-wing or right-wing. We are inclined to see the world very differently in large part because our minds are shaped differently.

Can you honestly not comprehend the difference between being “non-religious” (there’s really no such thing as a non-religious person because everybody worships something whether they recognize it or not, it’s part of the human condition, but that’s beside the point here) and wanting all religions to be treated equally under the law? Because I can’t tell if you’re really incapable of understanding, or if you get it and you’re just deflecting. To me it’s apples and oranges.
SW-User
I have no problem with Muslims at all. As I said on another post of mine earlier, we have freedom of religion in America and we are free to believe whatever we want here..so stop crying.
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I would note that Christianity was responsible for many heinous things, as are most religions. But the emphasis is on the word “was.” What mass heinous crimes have they been responsible for over the past century? This question is not to create an excuse but to put the religion’s actions into a current perspective. How about this month perhaps? I see the “religion of peace” is attacking Nigerian christians. https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/28/muslims-nigerian-christians/ @SW-User
JoeyFoxx · 56-60, M
Ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe is all about Christianity.

As part of the “Judeo-Christian” tradition, Jews and Christians can hide behind government.

The State of Israel is endorsed by many Christian sects and employs its reign of Terror over Muslims despite numerous times being found at fault of violating international law by the UN.

Every single President of the US has been Christian and no one has been able to explain where the WMD ever were.

It’s rather curious that Atheists seem to be more tolerant of regular Muslims than crazy fundamentalist Christians.

Atheists tend to see people.

Fundamentalists have their views clouded by a mysterious sky-person.

@DukeOfEarle
Quizzical · 46-50, M
I have no issue with them at all, however, if they wish to live by Sharia Law then they can go to a country that uses it, not try and change how the laws in my country function.
SW-User
They’re just like anyone else. Some are nice, some are not.
Hikingguy · 56-60, M
I have friends that are Muslim. They are just like anybody else. Too much fear generated by news media and social media. Never met one who is trying to change our laws to match theirs.
But...... that is only my experience.
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Hikingguy · 56-60, M
Okay fine. But go back and look at the original question. The author is looking for thoughts. And I gave mine. What does it matter to you?@AMERICA1ST
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Hikingguy Lmao that dude is the biggest snowflake on this whole board 😂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
I think it would be fine.
kayle · 70-79, M
So much hate and wars have been caused by religions that the world would be better off without any.
kayle · 70-79, M
@Kenscoff Well two things I must learn to keep quiet about is politics and religion. It is just futile to discuss either. Everyone has their beliefs and are not going to change.
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kayle · 70-79, M
@Kenscoff Don't think that I'm anti-church- if people want to go to church that's fine with me- but I think those people are good people who would do good things even if they didn't go to church.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
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AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@puck61 Yes, your point is my concern as well!
I don't want them to over populate and dominate my country.... Specially Hindu religion! Because India is known for its Hindu culture, purity, colours, love, care and acceptance thats why India is called incredible!

Hinduism is not just religion it is a way of living life!
@AngelKrish No. My family and I are Indophiles. We love the history and culture and , for the most part, the people of India. Every country has it's problems and no one is perfect, but India has been the spiritual hub of this planet as much as any other nation. Now it is an economic hub as well, and like I said, every country, people, and culture has it's drawbacks and faults. No one is perfect, but I would be willing to bet that the collective IQ of India is several points above the rest of the world.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@AngelKrish How about the caste system? You support that?
AngelKrish · 26-30, M
@Entwistle i don't support caste system as well! I am against it!
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@MarmeeMarch Eww 😷
Kelly Anne Conway’s pee?
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
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@Kenscoff According to former Soviet dissident Ed Lozansky pretty much everything from Western europe and North America. He has even said Soviet Pravda had more real information then US media today.
@Kenscoff And in the case of Vice they are reporting from Ukraine now exactly what was "Russian Propaganda " for 5 years and not even acknowledging the complete 180 and just pretending it never happened.
ArianaRose25 · 31-35
I don't have good experience with them so not good thoughts.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@ArianaRose25 sry to hear that. Unfortunately many muslim ppl make bad reputation when they try to be a part of another country
ArianaRose25 · 31-35
@ordinaryguy they do indeed.
The problem is that U.K. birth rate is falling but the Muslims are increasing
If this continues eventually the Muslims will be the majority
We could them be the minority and the Muslims could then be our mps and run the country and dictate the laws
Thankfully not in my lifetime but it could happen
Miram · 31-35, F
@BlueVeins All scholarly interpretations of Sharia are misogynistic and based on primitive understanding of justice/revenge, without an exception.

Hopefully by then, like most of my Muslim family members, the Muslims do not care to be ruled by Sharia Law.
Well done to you
I sincerely hope your right
I have Muslim friends who share your view too@Miram
katielass · F
@GeorgeandGina Oh, it will happen. There isn't a developed nation on earth that is reproducing a replacement rate. But muslims in particular are reproducing at more than twice the replacement rate. There's a reason for that and you just described it.
Lostpoet · M
After seeing what happend to Germany I'm not sure it would be such a good idea.
redredred · M
Failry negative to be honest. The sharia code is pretty awful as regards women, gays, non-believers and others.

And furthermore, any religion that doesnt like dogs sucks
redredred · M
Ive known a lot of people and a lot of dogs. I generally prefer the dogs@katielass
katielass · F
@redredred me too.
@katielass Check out these lovely Iranians. I guess they use acid cause it's cheaper and the get a thrill out of the suffering.
Live and let live, I judge people individually, but I judge religions as a whole and Islam seems to have a high percentage of whackadoos in it.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@FreeSpirit1 i respect ur thought but i think u r pretty much affected by false media. Id love to give more info about the questionmarks in ur head when we both have time ;)
@ordinaryguy That is very arrogant of you to assume my outlook is because i'm not educated enough to form my own opinion without the influence of a "false media". If you respect my thought then take it for what it is and don't assume you know more than I do.
ordinaryguy · 41-45, M
@FreeSpirit1 i am sry if i couldnt express it well. Maybe i should write "i guesss" instead of i think.what i guess so is : cuz i met many ppl who r affected by false news and negative propaganda. I never assume i know more than anyone. But unfortunately many ppl are easily manipulated and can blame millions of ppl cuz of a crime just 1 person commited
Budwick · 70-79, M
I think Islam is a bogus religion.

It's a political ideology and should not be protected as religions are.
@Budwick But... Political ideologies are MORE protected.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@canusernamebemyusername Ones threatening to overtake the government are not.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick Protocols of the Elders of Zion for the new age 🙄
NeloAngelo · 26-30, M
same thing i think of any religious peoples. large group of people willing to throw a hissy fit over there favourite fairy tail.
ZonkeyBalls · 46-50, M
Nice folks.
HannahSky · F
There are a lot of Muslims in the US already.
HannahSky · F
@ordinaryguy I agree with that, much more needs to be understood, both ways
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@AMERICA1ST Their deliberate and intended goal is to establish demographic predominance. It's quite clear in the Quran and Hadiths. Once they do, they destroy the culture of what ever country is infected by them.
They are just people and the idea that they will become a majority is just the deranged nightmares of right wing conspiracy theorists.
Cierzo · M
There are all kinds of Muslim people, but as a whole I see they are less prone to assimilate than other communities, and quite willing to live on welfare (to be honest, I blame more my stupid government than Muslims for this happening).

I have a lot of concerns about Islam, a religion that claims for death to infidels is always dangerous. If Muslims were the majority here one day, I would think my country is not my country any more, and very likely like a Jew in Germany in the 1930s.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
I don’t think I’d feel any differently than I do now. I’m kinda certain that white people here are in the minority here and I’m fine with that.

Maybe a lot of them are Muslims. How would I know unless they wore a hijab and I’m thinking that a lot of Muslim women don’t wear a hijab.
I think that it's past time that we stopped labeling them all as "terrorists". The bulk of Muslims have nothing to do with Islamic State (or whatever you want to call Bin Laden's lot) and attacking them because of their faith serves no purpose anymore than attacking all Christians who twist the Bible to enable them to abuse others does.
@HootyTheNightOwl But for some reason ALL Catholic Priests are labeled as child molestors.
@MarmeeMarch Sadly, the hatred of child molestation didn't just stop with Catholic priests, though... I've seen countless good, faithful Catholics tarred with that brush, too - and lost some friends myself as a result of it - but that's a story for another thread...
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch The institution clearly has issues, probably stemming from the basic reality that celibacy isn’t a natural state for humans. But thinking all priests molest children is pretty bizarre.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
If they behaved like muslims in the town I visited a few years ago I would feel threatened.
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@MarmeeMarch
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Mongoheadmonster · 46-50, M
I feel negative about it. Look at Turkey for example, it once was a candidate for entry into the European Union, now it's an increasingly authoritarian and religiously chauvinist state.

 
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