Do you think America will ever have a Black President Again?

@sweetiepoo I am leaving SW, I swear I am. But I did not want to leave this unanswered.

You are young and I am not. I am not yet blind or deaf. I would never for an instant argue that racism is not alive and well in this and every other nation. If it's not white against black it's somebody against somebody.

My question was, how were there enough votes to elect President Obama twice if there are enough racists to elect President Trump?

I have heard the epithets. I have thrown people out of my house and once out of my car for using them. I have quit two jobs because of unanswered racism.

I have seen a young black man racing panicked away from my father's car (we'd stopped to offer him a ride in the deep South in the mid 60s) because it was night, he was alone and the car was full of white faces.

I am not stupid and I am not smug. Racism still is with us although if I could wave a wand it would not be.

During the thread you responded to I looked to see the strength of the Klan. The Southern Poverty Law Center says 5000-8000. That's 8001 too many, and it's by no means the only racial-hate centered group.

But it's nowhere near enough to elect a President, not via the electoral college or any other way.

There are not enough black voters to elect President Obama. Even the strong Hispanic vote could not have put his campaign in the win column. 39% of whites voted for him and although I can't prove this I am confident that a number who did not vote for him were not concerned with his race, but his policies.

Blacks have many white enemies, I grant you. Not every white is an enemy and not every loss in the voting booth is race-driven.

That was my point.

@Mamapolo2016 I apologize, I thought you were asking that question [b]and[/b] claiming that racism was none existent. But why are you leaving SW? to answer your question, I did touch on it a little. I basically said that there are more good white people than bad white people. with all the good with people with all the blacks + others that voted, Obama won... and yes not just because of his skin, however, some very young people did.

@sweetiepoo You don't need to apologize to me. I meant to say but forgot to that I appreciated the sweet sanity of your response.

I do understand why we have trouble understanding each other. But we have to try, we have to try so hard.

I have watched a lot of people doing a lot of things in my life. One thing that is commonly known by counselors and mental health professionals is that if a spouse is accused unfairly of infidelity by an irrationally jealous spouse, it is likely that eventually they WILL be unfaithful. If you have the name, why not get in the game?

For a long time the US deserved the name 'racist,' although we have come along faster than many if not all nations. To an extent, we still do. But when an election goes a way other than what is desirable and the cries of 'US racism!' fill the air across the world, some good decent basic people who have been trying to do right start thinking, 'Wait. Is there nothing I can do to get the racist slogan off my t-shirt? Why try then?'

I don't doubt some voted for President Trump because of racism. I do NOT believe most did. If the two major parties do not swiftly process it that many votes for Trump were protest votes - we would not have Hillary Clinton forced down our throats - then it is going to happen again.

President Trump has not polarized us. President Trump is a non-presidential buffoon who is doing some good things that are helping everybody. We have polarized us by refusing to listen to each other.

You're a little bit right, I'm a little bit wrong is the political stance that ought to be popular right now if we don't want another four years of this caterwauling.

I have enjoyed our exchange and maybe we inched forward. I hope so.

@bijouxbroussard It should be the best candidate for the job.

@uncalled4 At least that perception by the voting public.

@Fernie Got anyone in particular in mind?

@lequack true, but we need to look beyond hyphenated Americanism, stop defining each other by race and the past, and only see each other as American to truly get past racism...

@wildbill83 That’s what black people are asking, and then they are told to stop talking about race. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world, so people will always be defined by their skin color whether they want to or not.

@lequack some lack the proper motivation and/or respect; I say we institute mandatory military service, would solve many problems, and sort out the real Americans. In the Army, there is no white, brown, black, etc. only "green".

@ValhallaAwaitsUs

Considering the current president, clearly being capable of doing the job is not really a factor...

@wildbill83 Not my ideal guy. I'd wait for Tim Scott. I just watched a sunday program on him and I liked him.

@Graylight Lol... I was just giving possibilities. Rubio's is a bit of a weasel.

@SW-User I don't know who Tim Scott is, but I'm gonna look him up. 🙂

@MarmeeMarch [quote]Although never codified into federal law, the one-drop rule was used as recently as 1980, when a Louisiana woman was denied her request to be classified as white on her birth certificate because of a black ancestor four generations back.[/quote]

Baseless mockery does not a truth make.

@Mamapolo2016 So I guess it suits many people - weather for the birth certificate thing - or applying to college or a job. So yep the door swings both ways with reg to opportunity.

@MarmeeMarch I'm done here.

But first, let's see. Four generations back. Four generations back means one of her great great grandparents was black.

Great Grandparent was half black.

Grandparent was 1/4 black.

Parent was 1/8 black.

She was 1/16 black, but she was black in Lousiana bureaucracy and obviously as of 1980 somebody was keeping track of such things in Louisiana.

@strongbow If that was the issue there wouldn't have been a male POTUS since Nixon.

@Mamapolo2016 You missed the point

@strongbow Wouldn't be the first time. Wouldn't be the first time today.