Do u think Donald Trump supports White nationalist groups ?

See. There's two sides to every story.

The KKK openly supported President Reagan. If you look at Reagan's record, he opposed the Civil Right's act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But then he voted to extend the Voting Rights Act and vetoed the Civil Rights Restoration act of 1988.

The left tried to make Reagan out as a racist, even speaking of his "wink" to the klan. But in his own words, this is how he rebuked the klan:

[quote]Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood.[/quote]

I never liked Reagan's politics, but I felt the left went too far. Reagan. He was an Irish-American like my father's peeps. In Reagan's autobiography he says:

[quote]My parents constantly drummed into me the importance of judging people as individuals.There was no more grievous sin at our household than a racial slur or other evidence of religious or racial intolerance. A lot of it, I think, was because my dad had learned what discrimination was like first hand. He’d grown up in an era where some stores still had signs at their door saying, NO DOGS OR IRISHMEN ALLOWED.[/quote]

And he goes and explains how his father slept in his car in the cold when a hotel clerk bragged about not serving Jews. And Reagan shares a story of how his college football team passed through his hometown, and when the motel wouldn't take the black players, they stayed at his home.

Respect.

IMHO Reagan was the last conservative POTUS. Probably the last we'll ever have.

So yea. Liberals like to make the KKK and other groups stick to presidents. Legit. It's a dirty political game.

I live in a fact-based reality. I'm not about to put POTUS Trump in a pointy hood. I am not going to do what the left did to POTUS Reagan without factual proof. That's about me, not politics.

But what stands out for me is the lack of the definitive condemnation. The Reagan-esque condemnation. I wouldn't judge POTUS Trump's 1st and 3rd barrage of comments regarding Charlottesville if it were not for a similar pattern of being non-committal regarding this stuff. In 2016 Trump demurred when asked about David Duke's support:

[quote]I have to look at the group. I mean, I don't know what group you're talking about. You wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about. I'd have to look. If you would send me a list of the groups, I will do research on them and certainly I would disavow if I thought there was something wrong. You may have groups in there that are totally fine -- it would be very unfair. So give me a list of the groups and I'll let you know.[/quote]

As opposed to the "blame on both sides" thing, my governor, the slippery Rick Scott said something Reagan-esque:

[quote]It is evil. There is no place in our country for racism or bigotry... There is no moral equivalency between the two sides.[/quote]

And he's no Ronald Reagan.

What's deeply troubling to me is that Reagan didn't have the internet in 1980's. Trump does. And if I can look at Stromfront and the social media of white supremacist and secessionist groups to see how they feel empowered by Trump's words-- he can. His staff can.

Let's concede for a moment that Trump is not a card carrying member of the KKK or any similar group, what's worse?

1. a racist bigot who actually believes in his hate filled cause and says, and does, whatever he can to promote its agenda.

2. a self-serving hypocrite who says, and does, whatever he can to promote his own personal interests.

At least with white supremacists we can identify them by their words and actions. We therefore have some way of dealing with them. But with Trump..........

And let's not forget the bigoted crap he spewed out at every single one of his rallies.

There is no question that he does. He knows they support him, and he returns their support with his own. That is why they've come out of the woodwork to spout their racial and ethnic hatred once again. And they won't stop until we have a president again who doesn't support them.

This is not about Obama, it's about Trump. Obama is NOT in office, and has no power to change my life, and yours. Trump is.

I don't know if he supports white nationalists, but they sure do love him, and believe he's the right answer to their ideology.

Trump is loyal to Bannon, because he's got him to the White House.

That aside, Trump's past behavior, including some of the things he said about President Obama, tell me that he's a racist.

I don't think he supports or endorses them. He is not going against them because he thinks there is common ground between them and his voting base.
Same as Obama did with black nationalists BLM.

There is no reason to think President Trump is racist or sympathizes with them. There is a lot of evidence that he is NOT racist. obama, on the other hand, did give Sharpton a huge role in his administration, he practically lived in the WH. Do you think because the lame stream media didn't report on it every day we didn't know about it. And it's very strange that sharpton, who happily took hundreds of thousands from trump in years past, allegedly to reach out to poor inner city blacks, wasn't calling trump a racist when the money was flowing into his greedy hands. And I think we all know most of the money ended up in his pocket. Further, trump has not invited any racist group to the WH, as obama did.

sharpless was practically on the WH staff, he was there enough to have earned a paycheck and I'm sure he got something out of it. He is the george soros of the black community, a traitor who is not at all interested in the welfare of his own people, just interested in lining his pockets and keeping them "in line".

For reference, I'm not for nor against Trump.

No, I don't think he endorses them, at all. He has a character flaw that makes him more lenient towards those who praise his value. As a president, this is inexcusable. This, in turn, makes those belonging to extremist groups assume that means he supports extremism and they get a free pass at being animals.

His only fault in all of this was not taking measures to ensure the safety of US citizens that want nothing to do with extremist attitudes and violence of all sides. He's not responsible for the actions of those that resort to senseless violence to get their point across, he's responsible for not preventing it when there's more than enough evidence to incarcerate them before it escalated to this level of inhumanity.

Free speech is reserved for those that abide by the law and are able to debate and discourse, even if the end result is agreeing to disagree. Everyone else loses that right the moment they swing their fists at another one, regardless of political inclination.

Yes. I agree fully.

No....I don't and he doesn't. It's funny you bring up Sharpton, the man owes millions in back tax's but no one is concerned about it. Then or now.

I don't think he actually does. He ran for nomination once before, in 2000 in the reform party along side others including David Duke. Back then, he left the race and the Reform party specifically citing that he couldn't stand being around bigots like Duke. Conveniently, in his 2016 he pretended to forget all about Duke and the KKK when they came out in favor of him. I don't think he's actually one of them, but he'll play dumb and coy to try to keep their support. He lost the popular vote after all, his margin is less than thin.

No. I'm so disgusted by this charade I can hardly breathe. Trump would have done more for legal minorities than even Johnson, but the WAR ON COMMON SENSE rages, and the hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with Ka-bar! Killer clowns everywhere!
"Cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war."
So be it.

No, actually. But I think he knows they're supporters, so he courts them and is careful not to piss them off, and says things that empowers them.

He cares more about support and approval than anything else, and so will sacrifice any shred of integrity to get it. BUt I don't think he personally wants an ethnostate.

I think he's a business man who needed their votes and managed to get them. What Trump believes matters less tho, but it's obvious that those white supremacists believe he is on their side, and they can do whatever they want under his watch

i have no idea...
he and bannon aren't old buddies...

their ideas seemed to be in line...
we can however look at his history with housing and discrimination in New York..
that's a given..

I agree with your post generally but I don't think Wright it Sharpton are in any way a mirror image of Duke or Spencer.

The nationalist groups support him and he doesn't disavow them.

Also a lot of people on SW won't disavow them.

No, but the media will beat it to death.

No

hi Zonuss
It is impossible to say if Trump is playing with fire, is a nazi apologist or he is a nazi. These are not questions you should have to ask of a US President though. All are bad.
Best wishes
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without a shadow of a doubt. Bannon and Sessions! come on now

No. I think he just wants support from anyone he can get, and they're a source.

No. But, I don't know any inside facts either.