If the Earth were spinning...

@newjaninev2
You’re wasting your time. So far he’s claimed there is no sun or moon, no solar system, no space, and no evidence of any of them. He’s too ridiculous to be taken seriously, and if he is serious, he’s too stupid to help. Take him out back and put a bullet in him.

@newjaninev2 That is bullshit. How can you claim that there is no absolute motion, If you are moving aren't you absolutely moving?

@DocSavage I claimed that everything that we see in the sky is merely a light with no substance or weight. If it had weight it would fall to the motionless plane beneath your feet. Try to keep up with what was said Doc.

@TBIman if you are in steady motion (neither accelerating nor slowing down) how do you know you are in motion?

@TBIman everything [b]is[/b] falling… at this moment everything is falling. Everything.

Weight depends on position within a gravity well. You seem to be confusing weight with mass.

@TBIman if you’re having trouble with all this let me know and I’ll see what I can do to rephrase it for you and see if that helps.

@newjaninev2

[quote]If an aircraft takes off at the equator and flies west at 1,760 kph to a destination 1,760 kilometres away, it will arrive there in an hour.

However, an observer in space would see the aircraft lift off, remain stationary in the air while the Earth rotated beneath it, and then descend to its destination once that rotated around.[/quote]

Not quite.

The rotation rate is very close to 15° per hour (360°/24 hr) so the distance along the equator for 1/24th day is

40,075.0142 km/24 hr ≈ 1670 km/hr.

@TBIman if you are in steady motion (neither accelerating nor slowing down) how do you know you are in motion?
The answer is… you don’t, unless you can see something else.
The [i]only[/i] way to perceive motion is [b]relative to something else.[/b]
There is no such thing as absolute motion.
All motion is relative.

@TBIman There is no way to make that work in a simple and consistent manner w/in the solar system withOUT gravity.

But you are either incredibly stupid, incredibly committed to skepticism, or looking for attention.

You don't understand all kinds of confirmatory facts, or the scale of the Earth/its rotational speed/the gravitational "constant" [i]G[/i], etc.

Try this on:

Why are spy satellites launched from, e.g., Vandenburg AFB, rather than, say, Cape Canaveral?

@SomeMichGuy No shit. Whoever said that we live in a sole-lure system? We are living in a Geosystem. I'll school you, if you would like?

@TBIman
School him ? You ?
Save the time, go full frontal lobotomy.

@DocSavage Dude! THE EARTH HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A STATIONARY PLANE IN MANY, MANY WAYS! You should look into it. By arguing whether or not the Earth is a ball you are making yourself look extremely unintelligent. If I am soooooo stupid for believing what was known to be true until the Jews, and Jesuits took control over the world... Why do you even bother engaging with me?

@TBIman
There’s just something about intense, irrational , mindless, stupidity that attracts people. The fact that you are so out of touch with reality , it’s incomprehensible to us.

@TBIman The Earth is maintaining a steady speed. it is neither accelerating nor slowing down, so of course you wont feel any motion.

Do you feel any motion if you're sitting in an aircraft that is is steady flight and maintaining a constant airspeed?

@TBIman
[quote]We are living in a Geosystem.[/quote]

No.

This breaks down when you consider observers on other planets.

The Earth's axial tilt is ≈23.44°, and, since it is solid, that's also the "inclination of the equator".

Uranus rolls along with an axial tilt of 97.77°, but the inclination of the equator is 82.23°.

The planes of the two orbits differ by under 1°.

So an observer on the equator of Uranus sees ALL THE STARS, PLANETS, ETC., "move" in a fashion COMPLETELY inconsistent with how they "move" on Earth.

THEREFORE, the other bodies DON'T move; the planets rotate on their axes.

It is the ONLY consistent description.

@newjaninev2 [quote]it is neither accelerating nor slowing down, [/quote]
That's not entirely true, Acceleration is a change in velocity, that is a change in speed OR direction. As the Earth is in orbit around the Sun*, it's changing direction (therefore accelerating) all the time due to the centripetal force of gravity.

*Actually the Sun and Earth are both orbiting their barycentre but, as the Sun has many times the mass of the Earth, the barycentre is close to the centre of the Sun.

@Sharon Exactly. Uniform circular motion has that characteristic.

And the Earth's slightly elliptical orbit means more acceleration (a [i]d^2r/dt^2[/i] component, along the radius).

And the rotation is being affected by the Moon...

@SomeMichGuy It's also affected by the gravitational effects of the other planets. It's a very complex system.

@Sharon ...yes...of course. All bodies affect it. But the primary affect on the rotational speed is the Moon.

@SomeMichGuy Agreed. Other forces can usually be ignored but I think it's important to remember they exist.

@Sharon lmao

smh

@SomeMichGuy Sorry. Do you disagree?

@Sharon No. This attempted one-upsmanship is typical.

You can play this game with someone who doesn't have a degree in physics, who hasn't met MTW. lol

I am out.

@SomeMichGuy Sorry you saw my comments that way. It wasn't intended as an attempt at oneupmanship at all, just an intellectual discussion. It made a pleasant change from trying to explain simple scientific concepts to people determined to not understand.