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What, you don't think the atmosphere spins along with the ground? You don't think the atmosphere pushes that helicopter along?

Actually there are several subtle tests that prove the Earth spins. One is a Foucault Pendulum. The dynamics equations for the Foucault Pendulum are taught in upper level undergraduate physics courses. They depend on a characteristic of rotating frames of reference known as the "Coriolis Force" or Coriolis effect.

Coriolis effect appears in many places on Earth. It's the reason winds rotate around low pressure centers. This rotation can cause hurricanes and tornadoes. The rotation of the winds isn't random. And it wouldn't happen if the Earth didn't rotate.

Coriolis effect explains why river banks in the northern hemisphere erode their right hand banks more so than their left (right hand as you look in the direction of flow), causing rivers to meander. River banks in the southern hemisphere erode their left hand banks more so than their right. Similarly, railroad tracks can wear out quicker on one side than the other.

TBIman · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues I give up. You are way too indoctrinated to communicate with.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues I do not believe that the Earth moves at all.
@TBIman How do you explain the fact that low pressure storms in the Northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, while low pressure storms in the Southern hemisphere rotate clockwise?

No, forget that; way too advanced for you.

Lets talk for a minute about the physicists who designed the devices you use to communicate. Let's talk about the folks who invented vacuum tubes and cathode ray tubes; the folks who understand how to manufacture transistors and how to put 5 billion on a thumbnail sized chip; the folks who invented light emitting diodes, liquid crystals, and flat screen displays; the folks who designed WiFi antennas and radio antennas; the folks who designed electric generators and high voltage transmission lines and transformers and circuit breakers.

Do you honestly think these folks could achieve all that, yet get fooled about the shape of the Earth? It's a serious question; I'm interested in your answer.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues You seem to be waaaaay more intelligent than me, and you fell for the deception. So yes I believe that they could have been deceived as well. I don't think that I have to convince you that I am not that bright. Therefore if I can figure out this conspiracy, you can too. You just have to demand proof of everything. And not let things like the "theory" of gravity deter you.
@TBIman Or maybe you fell for the self-deception.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard P. Feynman
TBIman · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues He was a real scientist. Unlike Neil Tyson.

Hey man, it is totally possible that I have been deceived, but it is equally possible that you have been deceived. I'm not saying that I am correct. I am simply saying that the Earth is provably NOT a spinning ball.
@TBIman It's possible I've been deceived, but not equally possible. I have tons of data and simple tests and observations one can do oneself. You have beliefs. You keep saying your claims are "provable" but you don't offer anything more than your beliefs.

BTW, Dr Neil deGrasse Tyson pubished original research in a number of scientific papers in peer reviewed journals. That makes him a working scientist and a contributor to science. He has since switched to the role of science communicator. But published original research makes him a real scientist.

P.S. you might want to look into what "provable" actually means in physics.
DocSavage · M
@TBIman Which comes down to the same thing. You're telling all of us that everything we see and know is wrong, and you give no evidence , just stupid claims, and you expect us to accept them at face value, or at least consider they might be true. No matter how stupid .
What kind of bullshit is that ? We're just supposed to take your word for it ? Even when you've been proven wrong . Tell you what Master mind, Why not show us all your Nobel Prize first, It won't help, But we might get the reward for returning it.
DocSavage · M
@TBIman [quote]You seem to be waaaaay more intelligent than me,[/quote]
I had a cat, that's been dead three years now . and it's waaaaay more intelligent than you are.
He knew more about gravity just by knocking things off the table.