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Maine joins the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

As everyone knows, the United States doesn't choose its president by popular vote, but by electoral votes based on the winner in each state. To win, a candidate needs 270 electoral votes. This is baked into the Constitution and switching to a popular vote would require an amendment.

However, the Constitution also allows each state to allocate its electoral votes any way it wishes. Originally, the state legislatures decided this, however, currently it's based on whichever candidate gets the most votes in the state. There is a proposal, called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, where states that sign on would award their electoral votes based on whichever candidate won the most votes nationwide, regardless of which candidate won in that particular state. This would prevent the situations in 2000 and 2016 where the loser of the popular vote won the election by having more electoral votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

With Maine joining, the NPVIC currently has 209 electoral votes. It doesn't kick in until it hits 270, so at the moment it has no bearing on the upcoming election. Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Virginia have pending legislation to join the NPVIC; if they do, that will bring the total to 254 electoral votes. Needless to say, the NPVIC is favored by Democrats as they are more likely to benefit, since the last two elections where the winner lost the popular vote but was elected anyway were won by Republicans. So the most likely state that might adopt it and bring it over the top would be Pennsylvania, which could have a Democratic trifecta next year.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4596054-maine-joins-effort-to-elect-president-by-popular-vote-with-new-law/

One advantage of a national popular vote would be that every vote would count. Under the current system, a Democrat in a red state, or a Republican in a blue state, might as well not vote at all because their state's electoral votes will go to the other party based on the state's majority. There are only around half a dozen true swing states without a clear majority for either party. With a national popular vote, a Republican's vote in California, or a Democrat's vote in Wyoming, would be added to the national total and could actually have an effect. This would prevent bizarre results like the one in 2000 where around 500 voters in Florida decided the election.

One disadvantage would be that since every vote counts, candidates would have to campaign everywhere, making them even more expensive. With only a few swing states, they can concentrate on those and ignore the solid red or blue states. Living in Georgia, I expect to see a lot more campaigning this year than I would have if I were still living in California or Oregon. That wouldn't be the case with a national popular vote.
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Convivial · 26-30, F
There are many such anomalies in your voting system which puzzle us, the rest of the world.

Here for example, voting is compulsory and always takes place on a Saturday.. And there is always a good turn out.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Convivial imagine doing it on the weekend so everybody gets a chance.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@LordShadowfire exactly... No requirement to take time off work... Plus here, the electoral boundaries are set by an independent organisation, not the political party in control of the state.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@Convivial That sucks, because then you have to take time out of your weekend to go vote. Here in the US our weekends are too short without voting. I like the idea of just making Election Day a national holiday much better.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@Theyitis seriously?

Here, the longest I've ever spent voting is around 10 minutes... Quick and easy
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@Convivial Honestly I’ve never taken much longer than that to vote either, but that seems like a really rich American way to solve the voting problem - no way we can afford to give everyone one little extra day off work! Here in America if you’re not rich they’ll work you to death.

Also, from what I’ve read it’s not always that easy to vote here. Depending on your precinct you might have to wait in line for hours to vote, which was the reason the provision in Georgia’s new voting law that forbids giving food or water to anyone waiting in line to vote was so controversial. Also, some people struggle to get transportation to the polls. And if you have to wait in line a long time you might have to find childcare while you take the time to vote.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@LordShadowfire Here you can vote any time in the month preceding election day. No need to give a day off.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@ninalanyon same as here, postal voting
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@Convivial Oh, but Trump says voting by mail is automatically fraud.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@LordShadowfire Trump says a lot of things lol