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Do you think the Medieval words of a Catholic cleric still relevant military policy today?

When asked about killing innocent bystanders in the Albigensian Crusade in the south of France, a Catholic cleric, abbot or bishop, said when the military were killing everyone, 'don't worry God will sort out his own', meaning, kill everyone those who are innocent as well as those guilty, God will pick out his people from the Satan's.

The blanket bombing of Vietnam, and before that the nuclear attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were Christian congregations, and in Tonkin in northern Vietnam, didn't stop the 'christian' forces from America and Australia, the West, from killing everyone, and the suicide bombers of militant Islam don't seem to worry about innocent Muslim bystanders among the Jewish population of Israeli towns and cities (and elsewhere), it's not about innocent bystanders, it's about destruction, being an indication of resolve. It doesn't matter if you're Americans, British, Israeli, Zionist, Muslim, or Hamas, your resolve to wreak havoc is all that matters!

The news media talks about the poor Gazans, but they neglected to speak about the innocent Iraqis or Afghanis, in the recent Western wars, but oh, if Israeli 'bites' back against those seeking to annihilate them it is morally wrong, and the shame on Israeli self-defence MUST be called out!!

What is that known as? HYPOCRISY!!!!!
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
No one seems to want to admit these days that "War is Hell" -- it kills innocents all the time. Maybe too many video games and propaganda about "smart" weapons has made people actually believe war can be nice and clean and fair?
[quote]The news media talks about the poor Gazans, but they neglected to speak about the innocent Iraqis or Afghanis, in the recent Western wars[/quote]

Seriously? That was the main reason so many people, even a lot of right-leaning people, hate George Bush.
Also, what Israel is doing is much worse. America was reckless and ended up killing civilians, which was wrong. But Israel is specifically targeting civilians.
We have to ask more than one cleric. There was an early medieval Christian practice of imposing penances upon returning warriors. It was felt at the time in the Catholic church that killing, even of an enemy soldier, was a somewhat sinful act. For example, after the 1066 battle of Hastings
[quote] A soldier received one year’s penance for each man he knowingly killed, forty days for each man he wounded.[/quote]
[b]https://international.la-croix.com/news/religion/war-penance/17934[/b]

Penances were also imposed on some returning crusaders, although there was also an opposing view that going on a crusade was itself a form of penance. Over the centuries, churches have relaxed their views on the sinfulness of killing soldiers in wartime, but it wasn't always so.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
Killing 10 000s of thousands of people of whom most are women and children after most of the hostages are returned isn't "biting back", it's genocide.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@EarthlingWise a majority have, do you know percentages work?

You are aware Israel themselves in cross fire killed some of the hostages. But of course that's gonna be s source of deflection.

Answer me this, did the ICJ find the Genocide in Gaza likely? Answer the question.
@basilfawlty89 I am informed, Sir, of political games. You don't really care about facts, you're accusing people of being racist without knowing them. Racism, I'm sorry to report, is not a white thing, you can find it everywhere.
@basilfawlty89 Not sure the term "likely" features in the ICJ ruling. Actually, and for all it's worth, ICJ President Judge Joan Donoghue did not state that there had been a genocide ; the court demanded measures to prevent a genocide from happening.
I hate the fact innocent people are killed in this war, but contrary to pro-Palestinian groups, I do not stand by fascist religious squads that are intoxicated with hatred and violence. This violence is inherent in their ideology, it exists in a continuum of atrocities committed towards Jewish people, with a predilection for sexual abuse towards women.
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@bijouxbroussard There's plenty of information available if you look for it.
@EarthlingWise Yeah, that’s why we have folks who in 2024 think the world is [b]flat[/b]. 🤦🏻
@bijouxbroussard It is tough. A never ending battle.

 
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