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If the USA congress re-enacts the war draft....

Would you be a draft dodger in order to save your life?

During the Vietnam War many men ran to Canada & Sweden to avoid the draft.


Footnote & Update:

Everyone thank you all for answering such a tough question to answer.

I'm way too old for the draft. My sons on the hand. Their is one that is still young enough for the draft. If the draft age remains 18-25 year men.

I really know his answer would be. He would run to another country if he could. We had this talk before. When we sat and talk talked to my uncles that were in the Vietnam war.
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Coldplay · 61-69, M
Easy for me to say....I won't get drafted at my age. But I would never dodge. Too many men and women have sacrificed their lives or put their lives on hold to protect the freedoms we enjoy and take for granted. We are not perfect, not by a long shot. But I believe in the United States and the majority of good people who live here. So I would serve if asked.
It depends on what the war is about. But if it was one I opposed, I wouldn't flee to save my own life; I'd flee to avoid serving in a war I didn't support. If it was one I supported (like repelling an invasion or putting down a right-wing insurrection), I'd volunteer.

However, there won't be a draft. Chicken hawks like to bring up the draft as virtue signaling, like suggesting that we reform gang members by having Marine drill instructors yell at them, or complaining about how kids these days are too overweight or too emotionally fragile to be able to serve. The fact is that the military doesn't want a draft. No officer wants to deal with angry, resentful conscripts who will be looking for the first opportunity to frag their CO.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@LeopoldBloom you do know that the requirement to register for the draft still exists in the US!
HumanEarth · F
Unless you comit a felony I hear. Don't know if that's true or not. I just heard that somewhere before.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Being in the military will radicalize many more than the elites who own and run this country will admit.

It is a big change to go from sitting at home watching propaganda. Then get drafted, be sent overseas, talk to the locals and find out the US is behind "the bad guys."

This vet began reading Marx a long time ago. Marx and other economists are correct.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Crazywaterspring I was in the military, put in 2 years during Viet Nam. I was not radicalized, I gained a lot, and helped others during my time.

I do believe that all citizens should do some service to the community/nation. Yes, it was eye opening, more in meeting people from a wide swath of the country, interacting with those i would not have otherwise.

I don't understand your comments about Marx. Would you really want to live in a Marxist society?
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 Did you go to Viet Nam speaking the language? Did the locals explain that it was an ongoing civil war?

The US has a lot of problems that are not being acknowleged, let alone addressed. But that's conservatism. Congress had decided that American people aren't worthy of national healthcare, living wages, affordable housing or a secure retirement.

I was sent to the middle east. I learned Arabic in college and enlisted after graduating due to a recession and lack of jobs. Recruiters and such only wanted Russian and Korean speakers.

A society based on Marxist principles would be nice.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@Crazywaterspring You haven't answered my question. Of the ten strongest economies, which ones are Marxist?

How about this. Of the ten largest companies on earth, which ones operate in a Marxist fashion?

The new economy minister in Russia, loosely translating his name as Tony White, is a Marxist, and one of the things he advocates to fix the Russian economy is forced labor. Why do you support forced labor?
IronHamster · 56-60, M
I am a bit old for the draft, but, our military worked better without the draft before Biden went all DEI, aka Didn't Earn It.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@basilfawlty89 Whatever.
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HumanEarth · F
I don't mean to butt in, but that was funny
Elessar · 31-35, M
If a draft will be enacted because we end up in a world war, there's nowhere safe you can go.

You'll get to decide between being drafted by the US army and fight for your country, or be drafted by the Russian or Chinese one once they're done with wherever you'll be.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I served during the Reagan wars in the 80s. Draft my daughters or grandkids? They have dual citizenship just for this reason.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@Crazywaterspring Dual citizenship can make you liable for two sets of military service! A colleague of mine had children with Norwegian and Turkish citizenship, he was able to buy his son out of Turkish military service though.
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom There are quite a few congressional staffers with dual US/Israëli citizenship.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
I served from 1970-72. I sort of had mixed feelings, including guilt for "supporting" the war.
HumanEarth · F
So did my uncles.

One served from 1966-68/69 (not sure on date)

The other went in from 1967 and stayed in till 2000. He made it to Lieutenant Colonel before retirement.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@HumanEarth from the time of my separation i regularly requested my formal release, red gning my commission regularly. I was stuck in the inactive reserves for 7 years. I love the concepts of democracy in the US. I dial me vehemently, the way the Republican can party has pushed the direction needle.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@samueltyler2 One of my coworkers was South Vietnamese. He spent ten years in a reeducation camp, and, as an engineer, he was put to work as a music teacher because engineering jobs were only for party members. In his memory, thank you for your service, and that of all your brothers in arms.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Served 78-81. Yet who would want a nearly 65 year old retired man. 😆
@DeWayfarer The younger recruits would call you "Unk."
HumanEarth · F
I tried to serve my country, but the USA marked me 4F because of childhood epilepsy. Can't join with a seizure disorder
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@HumanEarth I nearly didn't get in. I was boarder line under weight. Yet they did accept me.
Probably, I would have been.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
I already served.
smiler2012 · 61-69
@HumanEarth i am not american but you cannot say this was an act of cowardice alone some have principles and are pacificts and peace loving people
HumanEarth · F
I'm not saying cowardice & or anything.

I would choose life over war. But like my uncles they were forced to go to Vietnam and fight.

I'm asking a choice to run or to fight. Not if their a Coward or anything. I rather have my sons at my Christmas table for dinner, then never them again.
No. They're not going to admit I could be useful in a war that might end! Useful,- like human beings? Nah.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
I would absolutely refuse to engage in combat on behalf of Israel, even if it meant a firing squad.
Will they draft women too?
HumanEarth · F
No
@HumanEarth How very sexist of them. :(
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
I will send my army-age boys to Mexico
HumanEarth · F
I support that

 
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