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Are certain weapons too destructive and powerful for the general public to own?

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If the guns are too powerful preventing police from engaging and saving lives, maybe they shouldn’t be available to the public.
Maybe its the people we need to be a bit more concerned with not the guns.
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DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@MarmeeMarch you’re a lost cause. I’m done
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TexChik · F
Fortunately for us , the constitution protects the rights of Americans to keep and bear arms . In the case of Uvalde, TX, it seems a BB gun would have been too powerful for the police there.

If you are afraid of guns, don’t own one .
TexChik · F
@therighttothink50 the Uvalde shooting happened ( school) because 2 people failed to do their job. The teacher that broke protocol and propped a locked door open so she could go get her phone , and the SRO ( school police officer) officer that left his post to go run errands.
robb65 · 56-60, M
@TexChik The latest claim is that that she closed the door when the shooting started. For some currently unknown reason it didn't lock.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@TexChik I choose not to blame the police or school but financials should be looked into
spice1 · M
It's not the guns it's the people, no matter how many gun laws we pass if someone wants to do harm they're gonna find a way.
Lmao... Even countries where guns are illegal still have ways that you can get guns if that's what you want to own.

No matter what you might do, there's ways around anything if you are creative enough.
@NerdyPotato I wouldn't call between 45 and 70mph "slow". Sure, you'll probably get attention from the police at an earlier stage - but I doubt that the current methods they have for stopping cars will be as effective.
@HootyTheNightOwl fair enough. But why would you get a tank just for driving? Plus I bet it would be a lot more expensive than a machine gun and some ammo, and more difficult to learn how to use well enough to get it to the venue.
@NerdyPotato Why would you drive it the whole way??? Simply exhibit it at a show and wait for your perfect moment.

Terrorists already use cars in this manner, so I doubt that squishing people with a great tank would take that much more planning.

All you really need is a tank enthusiast - and, given that we have events where tanks are exhibited... I don't think that would be too hard to locate.
What actually constitutes too powerful? Based on this post and some others I'm seeing...you wouldn't happen to be thinking of the AR-15, would you?
@MarmeeMarch Yes. Larger rounds and higher velocities. The AR-15 is on the low end of a mid-powered rifle. The .223 & 5.56 mm rounds it shoots lack the power to leglly hunt deer in most states.
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IronHamster · 56-60, M
@BizSuitStacy Right. It's a mouse gun. Shoot Haji running across the street and it just leaves a hole and he keeps running, because the bullet doesn't have time to be effective in his malnourished body.
acpguy · C
Depends on what you mean "certain weapons too destructive and powerful for the general public to own". If you mean MSR's which include semi-auto AR15 sty7le rifles then "NO" as they are less powerful and deadly than many pistols, rifle and shotguns used for hunting. AR15's are not assault rifles as they are not full auto rifles they are like semi auto shotguns, rifles and pistols. If you are stating things like tanks, fully armed attack aircraft, missiles and weapons that can disperse toxic gasses, chemical and bio-hazards..........then yes those should not be allowed in the general public. And if you are one of those possessing very low intelligence then you should get educated so that you know more people are killed with hands, feet, knives, clubs and liberals texting while driving. People can make very deadly explosives and bio-weapons at home that will kill many more people and more effectively than any rifle or pistol. A semi-auto hunting style shotgun loaded with buck shot will kill many more people in close quarters than any AR15, pistol or rifle.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
misinformation in the hands on an idiot is more dangerous than the most deadly weapon in the hands of a law abiding citizen...
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes if mass murder is your only goal, there are plenty of things more "effective" than a firearm...
Slade · 56-60, M
@IronHamster notice how Columbine, the most infamous of school shootings, happened right in the middle of the liberals beloved AR ban?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@wildbill83 Did you hear about the Finnish sniper that killed over 500 Russians with a rifle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä
4meAndyou · F
It's becoming increasingly well researched and bang-me-over-the-head obvious that young shooters who smoke highly potent WEED with high THC levels can quickly become psychotic or schizophrenic.

Highly potent levels of THC cause or induce psychosis increase the likelihood of irrational behavior in teens. Weed use among our young is a planned event. It makes huge money for the cartels.

SANE people have no problem, as a general rule, owning and handling any level of firearm.

The Socialist Great Reset does require that the population be disarmed.
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4meAndyou · F
@CopperCicada Absolutely correct...BUT...the weed is the gateway, according to the most recent research. It takes a young man with a horrible family situation, and turns him psychotic. What might have become low achievement and self pity in a sane young person, now turns into mass murder.

Additionally, some illegal weed is boosted with fentanyl, and kills the users...and in the case of the Uvalde murderer, I can't help but wish it had.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
The chief of Uvalde is a Beto donor, a Hispanic politician. He probably arranged for the Hispanic Trans guy to be armed with guns he could not afford so that he could shoot Hispanic children while the Hispanic cops kept parents from helping while the children bled out. Then, a white guy popped a cap in the gunman ending the siege. You're welcome.

It's not the gun. It's not even about race, but with some libs trying to spin yet another narative I felt some reality was needed.

Investigate. I believe some or all Uvalde cops should be charged as accessories to murder.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
I have to laugh at the idea of any weapons ban. Is Beto going to go to Mexico and show us how to disarm the drug cartels? Hmmm? Will he send cops to collect guns, the same cops that let children bleed out while they stop parents from helping, because it is less dangerous to stop a helper than a single gunman?! How about the military, whose brass couldn't secure Afghanistan in twenty fucking years?!
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
That is exactly how you frame the conversation for gun reform .
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
I do not think the general public should own nuclear weapons. I think we can scale back from there but there's clearly a line of reasonableness.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@CountScrofula as a former weapons person in the USAF I have seen a lot of crazy bad weapons. Nuclear certified part of the time I served. My opinion is no body or no country needs nuclear weapons. The majority of all weapons are developed by private companies or individuals not the government.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Baremine > The majority of all weapons are developed by private companies or individuals not the government.

Oh yeah this one I'm aware of. And of course nobody should have nuclear weapons they're horrific engines of death. My point is that if a weapon is too powerful for a nation to own, then clearly there are weapons too powerful for individuals to own.
Baremine · 70-79, C
@CountScrofula human beings are naturally evil and come up with horrible weapons. But food for thought I think I would prefer to be shot rather than to be chopped up with a sword or squirted with an arrow. Not that I want either. So having said that I love to target shoot but don't like to hunt. Killing is not my thing. But I would defend myself and my family. I am looking forward to when mankind beats their swords into plow shares
MarineBob · 56-60, M
So you fully trust 100% of the police officers of the world to have more and better weapons than yourself
acpguy · C
I think you and others commenting on this should go to these and read as it might help unless you are hopelessly brainwashed.

The Crisis of Fatherless Shooters
https://www.heritage.org/marriage-and-family/commentary/the-crisis-fatherless-shooters
ALSO
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/we-must-confront-the-cultural-mess-that-gave-us-uvalde
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@acpguy Also psychotropic medications.
One user on here was wanting to use tanks against school shooters. Sure let's just nuke the school in order to get one person🙄
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Too much common sense involved for our politicians to get behind the concept.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Dirty Harry had the right calibre
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@Tres13 it’ll rip your head clean off..
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@Tres13 if you look at the BFR line, there are more powerful six shooters now.
Tres13 · 51-55, M
Dirty Harry was the Man Bro@IronHamster
Northwest · M
You can legally buy a .50 cal rifle. Sure, it's a hunting weapon, if you're intent on killing an elephant from a distance of 1200 yards.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
Second Amendment, Bro

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@Baremine The term "assault weapon" was invented back in the mid 1980s (I forget the name of the anti-gun group) with the purpose of confusing the public into thinking they're machine guns.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch The problem with firing that many rounds so quickly is that it will overheat the barrel and cause problems.
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