I think it totally unfair that the father has no say although if she DOES have the child he is liable for child support
If she doesn’t want it and he does, shouldn’t SHE be liable for child support. BOTH created the child.
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@DeluxedEdition Sorry, I had to share 😇
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BlueVeins · 22-25
universal basic income could solve this
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Sounds like it all turned out ok then. @cherokeepatti
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@jackjjackson Her ex got counseling for the children.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Good for him!
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Reminds me of when I adopted my wife's 4 year old. The judge said "You better be sure you want to do this, because you can divorce her but after I grant the adoption you have him for life."
More to your point, I was involved in a case where a pregnant woman was declared brain dead. Her parents wanted life support removed. The unmarried father of the fetus sued saying it was his child too and he wanted her kept alive until the fetus could survive on its own because he wanted to experience fatherhood. The courts ruled in his favor over her parents' objections. He experienced less than a year of fatherhood before he grew tired of it. Guess which set of grandparents wound up raising the kid.
More to your point, I was involved in a case where a pregnant woman was declared brain dead. Her parents wanted life support removed. The unmarried father of the fetus sued saying it was his child too and he wanted her kept alive until the fetus could survive on its own because he wanted to experience fatherhood. The courts ruled in his favor over her parents' objections. He experienced less than a year of fatherhood before he grew tired of it. Guess which set of grandparents wound up raising the kid.
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LeopoldBloom · M
The non custodial parent pays child support. If the father has custody, the mother pays. There’s no exemption for women.
LeopoldBloom · M
@jackjjackson Oh, now we're on abortion? I thought we were talking about child support. Yes, Einstein, if the woman has an abortion, no one pays child support. There's no male equivalent. It's inside of her body, so of course she gets to decide. Saying the man should have a say would be like me donating one of my kidneys to you and telling you how to vote because part of my body is keeping you alive.
In return for not deciding if the woman has an abortion or not, men don't have to be pregnant. It's a tradeoff. The deciding factor is that you can't say what happens when something leaves your body. Just as a woman can be stuck with child support after the kid is born, the man loses control of what happens to his sperm after it leaves his dick. If a man wants a say in what happens after that, he needs to cultivate a relationship with the women he bangs and not expect the state to do it for him.
Allowing men to sign away their parental rights to evade child support would force the rest of us to pick up the tab in the form of welfare payments or section 8 housing. I'll be damned if I'm going to let my taxes subsidize some guy who wants to dip his wick with no consequences.
In return for not deciding if the woman has an abortion or not, men don't have to be pregnant. It's a tradeoff. The deciding factor is that you can't say what happens when something leaves your body. Just as a woman can be stuck with child support after the kid is born, the man loses control of what happens to his sperm after it leaves his dick. If a man wants a say in what happens after that, he needs to cultivate a relationship with the women he bangs and not expect the state to do it for him.
Allowing men to sign away their parental rights to evade child support would force the rest of us to pick up the tab in the form of welfare payments or section 8 housing. I'll be damned if I'm going to let my taxes subsidize some guy who wants to dip his wick with no consequences.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Youth clearly ADHD. The subject is some bimonthly killing my kid for no good reason. Move along. @LeopoldBloom
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