@kodiac yes I do believe - You seriously believe the u s needs canada or europe . You cant replace them , not in 20 years time. when being protected from people like putin is no longer the us responsibility and no longer free- how so ? USA cant even fight rebels in Yemen . decades of money pouring out of their tax money to support countries that only stay for the money.For how much USA sold their weapons in last 4 decades to Europe ? Over the last four decades (roughly 1986 to 2026), the United States has sold an estimated $250 billion to $350 billion worth of weapons and defense services to European nations through official government channels. If you incorporate direct commercial sales by private U.S. defense contractors, classified programs, and multi-year maintenance/sustainment contracts, total transatlantic defense expenditures easily approach $450 billion to $550 billion over this 40-year span.Over the 20-year war in Afghanistan (2001–2021), the United States spent an estimated $2.3 trillion on the conflict. Following the military withdrawal, approximately $7.1 billion worth of U.S.-funded military equipment and weapons was left behind and fell into the hands of the Taliban.Integrated Supply Chains: The U.S. and Canada share a highly integrated automotive and manufacturing sector. Parts cross the border multiple times before a final product is assembled. Stopping trade would instantly halt U.S. domestic production for various industries.Energy Security: Canada is the largest foreign supplier of crude oil, electricity, and natural gas to the United States.Key Components and Technology: Europe provides the U.S. with critical machinery, pharmaceuticals, aircraft parts, and precision technology that American industries rely on daily.Investment and Jobs: European and Canadian companies invest trillions of dollars into the U.S. economy, directly supporting millions of American jobs.Economists generally agree that while a total trade shutdown would trigger severe recessions in Canada and Europe, the United States would also experience a major economic shock, including widespread inflation, supply shortages, and massive job losses.Conversely, critics and many economists argue that these policies can lead to unintended negative consequences for the broader U.S. economy:Increased Costs for Consumers: Analysts frequently point out that tariffs are taxes paid by domestic importers, which often results in higher prices for American consumers on everyday goods and components.Retaliatory Measures: Foreign nations often respond to U.S. tariffs by imposing their own restrictions on American exports, which can severely impact domestic sectors like agriculture that rely heavily on global markets.No, the United States cannot realistically stop trading internationally, especially given its massive $40 trillion national debt.While it is theoretically possible for a nation to cut off trade, doing so while carrying historically high levels of debt would trigger a severe domestic economic collapse. The national debt and international trade are deeply connected, and stopping trade would destroy the precise mechanisms that keep the U.S. government funded. If the U.S. stops trading, foreign nations will stop accumulating U.S. dollars and will stop buying American debt. If the U.S. cuts off global trade, a massive pool of buyers for U.S. government bonds instantly disappears.To convince remaining domestic investors to buy its debt, the government would be forced to dramatically increase interest rates.Higher interest rates would instantly drive up the cost of mortgages, credit cards, and business loans, grinding the domestic economy to a halt.The cost for the government to service its own debt would skyrocket, eating up a massive portion of federal revenues and threatening a default.The vast majority of the $40 trillion debt balloon is actually held domestically, but the foreign share is critical to keeping interest rates low.f the United States completely stops international trade, the U.S. dollar would rapidly lose its status as the world’s primary reserve currency.This shift would permanently alter the global financial landscape. For decades, the dollar has enjoyed what French politicians famously called an "exorbitant privilege"—the ability for the U.S. to borrow cheaply and spend heavily because the rest of the world needs dollars to trade. Ending trade breaks the exact mechanism that created this privilege.The Backfire Effect: When people are deeply invested in a political narrative or a specific leader, presenting them with facts that contradict their worldview can actually cause them to double down on their original belief. Their brain treats the factual correction as a personal attack

@SumKindaMunster Weird how we got from talking about Iran to my nipples.

You big poof.

@AdmiralPrune You're the one who said I could "count on" you rubbing your nipples.

Don't say it if you don't mean it.

@SumKindaMunster Nailed it !!

@Ben1000 Only communicating in emojis eh? I’ll take that as a yes.

Sit still and I’ll go find you some crayons to eat.

@AdmiralPrune you’re the one resorting to name calling is that the sign of an intelligent adult

@AdmiralPrune dude I come in peace and I know Trumps not been the best this term but I guess I’ve always seen America as the good guys. Now I’m go ask mummy for my crayons

@CountScrofula You mean besides the future possibility of not having every commercial product I buy manufactured in an authoritarian hellhole, or being able to walk on a college campus without fear of being hauled into the Star Chamber? Or are you just looking to score easy "debate points" off of sound bites?

@Rabscuttle Well no I'm genuinely interested because I think everyone is voting for politicians who rip them off.

Nothing I've read said the tariffs are increasing manufacturing. Is this happening?

And what did you say that got you hauled off to a star chamber?

@Rabscuttle By becoming yourselves one? Or worse, an oblast of one?

You've clearly no idea of what authoritarian means, if you believe that the guy laying red carpets for Putin, Xi and Kim Jong Un Is your savior lol

Subsidized lmao. By the time you'll figure out that the post WW2 system benefitted the USA more than anyone else, you'll be stomping your feet and begging to have it back.

That's the silver lining of all the sh"t Trump caused, the milquetoast conservatives in European governments would've never initiated the transition to a strategically independent Europe on their own, Trump thankfully forced their hand. Exactly like he's massively boosted the transition away from fossil fuels that would've never taken so much momentum without the Hormuz crisis.

@AdmiralPrune Bullshit.

Only China and apparently Canada. Too bad for them.

Not yet, anyway.

Bullshit

@SumKindaMunster


Greenland is a part of Denmark. So that’s a fact.

At least 65 countries have tariffs from the Trump regime. They are being addressed by increasing trade amongst each other to minimise the impact.

This being the war he claims to have won every other week?

You not following your presidents actions without bias does not make it incorrect. It’s the reason why Carney has shifted his nations focus to the EU.

@AdmiralPrune Trump never threatened to invade Greenland. He refused to rule it out, and said if we did, we would take it. There was never any serious threat made. However, he did make the deal he wanted in Greenland....and no it's not the same one from the 50's...

Only China and Canada have retaliated with tariffs. The rest made a deal and we all moved on.

I love how Trump is a liar and can't be believed...until he says something you want to be true, and then you believe it as gospel.

Mark Carney is a globalist shill who is interested in continuing Canda's shift to the left, by making Trump his foil. They had a deal on tariffs, and Carney ordered everyone home because he believes he will get a better deal down the road should the US midterms go badly for Trump and Republicans.