Caden7 · 18-21, MNew
It’s pretty unlikely I think. Russia and China don’t want to risk anything to save Iran.
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Caden7 · 18-21, MNew
@therighttothink50 Not even remotely close, and it’s a small discount. What’s your source?
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Caden7 · 18-21, MNew
@therighttothink50 that says 1.8 million, not billion. You’re off by a factor of 1000.
ElwoodBlues · M
Probably not, but even this was avoidable.
tRump's blunder seven years ago led us directly to this dangerous shooting war in the Middle East.
tRump blew up Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, then reinstated U.S. sanctions on Iran. Iran kept their word until tRump broke the deal.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-ending-united-states-participation-unacceptable-iran-deal/
tRump did this in May 2018, and without the deal in place, Iran limited inspections and began digging deeper bunkers and enriching U235. tRump never made an alternate deal, and Iran has been enriching U235 deep under a mountain for the last seven years.
Dr Ernest J. Moniz, former MIT nuclear physics professor, Belfer Center senior fellow; CEO of the Nuclear Threat Initiative; former U.S. secretary of Energy, and lead technical negotiator of the Iran nuclear deal, released this statement soon after tRump blew up the JCPOA.
tRump's blunder seven years ago led us directly to this dangerous shooting war in the Middle East.
tRump blew up Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, then reinstated U.S. sanctions on Iran. Iran kept their word until tRump broke the deal.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-ending-united-states-participation-unacceptable-iran-deal/
tRump did this in May 2018, and without the deal in place, Iran limited inspections and began digging deeper bunkers and enriching U235. tRump never made an alternate deal, and Iran has been enriching U235 deep under a mountain for the last seven years.
Dr Ernest J. Moniz, former MIT nuclear physics professor, Belfer Center senior fellow; CEO of the Nuclear Threat Initiative; former U.S. secretary of Energy, and lead technical negotiator of the Iran nuclear deal, released this statement soon after tRump blew up the JCPOA.
President Trump’s decision today to withdraw from the Iranian nuclear deal is a major strategic mistake that not only damages the United States’ ability to prevent Iran from acquiring the material for a nuclear weapon, but also impairs our ability to prevent the spread and use of nuclear weapons, to work with allies and partners on issues of global concern, and to protect our interests in the Middle East for years, if not decades, to come. The Iran nuclear deal rolled back Iran’s nuclear program and imposed uniquely stringent monitoring and verification measures — the most important elements of which were permanent — to prevent the country from ever developing a bomb. The United States is now in violation of the terms of the deal without offering a credible alternative. The Iran deal is and has always been about depriving Iran of the nuclear materials — highly enriched uranium and plutonium — needed to make a weapon. As international inspectors, who have been on the ground every day since the deal was concluded, have confirmed: The Iran agreement has accomplished this. The fact that the advice of this nation’s most-important allies was ignored in this decision adds to the consequence of the president’s decision. Remaining in the agreement was very clearly in the U.S. national interest. It’s hard to predict what will unfold from here, but the president has driven a deep wedge between the United States and our allies in Europe and has withdrawn from the process that would allow a comprehensive investigation of the Iran archives recently revealed by Israel.
TangledUpInBlue · F
I don’t think so, I hope not. I’m no expert, however tensions are rising and there are conflicts all over the world. So the future looks a little dismal.
Yes. It should have been known in 1947 when the UN took land from Palestine, while giving land back to Jewish people to make Israel this would upset peace of any kind. It would create divisions. Now we have the "peace" president, Trump, writing bombastic statements about Iran and telling those who live in Tehran to move or be prepared to be slaughtered. Who arms Israel? The US. So you better be prepared for all out war.
JSul3 · 70-79
@KingofBones1 You better have proof....which you don't....just like Iraq.
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
@JSul3 again another cow telling Democrat speaks
JSul3 · 70-79
@KingofBones1 So you agreed with the invasion of Iraq in spite of the fact they had no WMDs and had zero to do with 911.
You poor soul, you are easily misled.
You poor soul, you are easily misled.
Confined · 56-60, M
Possible
BlueVeins · 22-25
No. The closest analogue to what this could become is the South Indochina War. Imperial western forces trying to force an impoverished country to accept their puppet government. The latter fights back tooth and nail with support from Russia and China. The population and terrain also line up kind of well.
meJess · F
A regional conflict that seems to be a foregone conclusion. Escalation, even nuclear would still be in the same region given neither side possesses inter continental weapons.
Russia, China and the US who could escalate the situation beyond a regional one do not seem to be inclined to do so.
Russia, China and the US who could escalate the situation beyond a regional one do not seem to be inclined to do so.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@meJess Give it time. The Bible says the final battle of Armageddon will take place in israel, and that can't happen if Israel is gone. Evangelical voters will basically demand the support of Israel, even though it's clear they are the aggressors.
DDonde · 31-35, M
I think it would be wrong to rule it out. I have no confidence that it will or won't either way.
YoMomma · 41-45
It’s possible
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Probably not. Even the majority of the other Arab countries don't seem to like Iran and are likely to welcome regime change there.
ElwoodBlues · M
He's right, only the most vile people would do that.


TinyViolins · 31-35, M
Nah. Their only serious ally is Russia and they're preoccupied with Ukraine. China won't help because it has nothing to gain. Iran is probably close to using up all its missiles anyway, so there's very little chance of this conflict dragging on long enough to go that route
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@awildsheepschase The US caught Iraq by surprise and had coalition forces from other countries helping out. The cat's already out of the bag with the Iran-Israel conflict
In both wars, there was a heavy bombing campaign that forced enemy troops to retreat so that invading soldiers could land. Iran has spent a lot of its arsenal already and Israel has interceptor missiles out the wazoo. It's spent decades trying to perfect the Iron Dome. No other country boasts a defense system as responsive as Israel's
Could Israel invade Iran? Maybe, but the US is more than willing to provide Israel with missiles and bombs so that they don't even need to risk a single soldier
In both wars, there was a heavy bombing campaign that forced enemy troops to retreat so that invading soldiers could land. Iran has spent a lot of its arsenal already and Israel has interceptor missiles out the wazoo. It's spent decades trying to perfect the Iron Dome. No other country boasts a defense system as responsive as Israel's
Could Israel invade Iran? Maybe, but the US is more than willing to provide Israel with missiles and bombs so that they don't even need to risk a single soldier
@TinyViolins I still think you underestimate the social divide and there's a point missle defence systems breakdown when we are talking ground warfare. But I see you only see in military might. Which has not boded well in the past for the US, unless the US wants to invoke the nuclear option.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@awildsheepschase There's always been a social divide. Even if missile defense systems break down, the US still has a military presence in Iraq, which is right between the two countries. Either Israeli troops pass through for some unknown reason (they don't even want the land, they just want to wipe out their nuclear capabilities), and get US support along the way. Or Iran marches through Iraq and the US will be able to provide crucial intelligence so Israel can wipe out their advancing troops.
You're fixated on this idea of ground warfare even though it doesn't make sense for either country to do. They're just going to try to destroy infrastructure with missiles until one side or the other gives up
You're fixated on this idea of ground warfare even though it doesn't make sense for either country to do. They're just going to try to destroy infrastructure with missiles until one side or the other gives up
ArtieKat · M
No. Somebody will blink first
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
No. Tossing out, "a WW3 moment," "a constitutional crisis," and "an existential threat" have become overused phrases to the point where they are meaningless in a global society so bored they are hellbent in over-dramatizing every self-absorbed issue as epic.
The Israel-Iran war will become an ongoing regional conflict.
The Israel-Iran war will become an ongoing regional conflict.
@MarkPaul That's how you have become desensitized but I'm not sure if you know the ground in the middle east right now from your tower.
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BrandNewMan · M
It could .. but not overly likely
EarthGirl · 18-21, F
No. The entire region isn't worth gaining.
Gingerbreadspice · F
Likely not. Those countries have always been dodgy and fighting in the Middle East seems a regular occurrence.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
This isn't peace or freedom. Americans imposed endless WWIII decades ago.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@Roundandroundwego yes on communism
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lostlissa · 36-40, F
No
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
No
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
No
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Ferise1 · 46-50, M
A World War lII situation? Don’t you mean” World War Ill”