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Gaza is not an open-air prison

When people are in prison, including open prisons, they have all and any weapons confiscated from them. Despite certain materials being banned, Gaza is still extremely heavily armed. How do people in an open-air prison manage to get their hands on so many guns, missiles, bombs, and materials for tunnels? Where and how did they get the very expensive products used to attack Israel? How did they then get into Israel with all of it? Thousands of Hamas "militants", and civilians from Gaza, were able to access Israel, and no one was there to send them back to their prison. Somehow, they left the prison premises and were not apprehended.

Does the same not also apply to internment camps?

Billions of dollars are also allowed to get into this prison, every year.

Hamas, the government in this prison, refused to have the Egyptian and Israeli blockade lifted because it would have made their resistance useless, and redundant in the eyes of Gazans. Most prisoners are desperate for more freedom, but violently resisting Israel's existence is more important to Hamas.

If Gaza is an open-air prison, Israel must be a horrible prison officer. More prisons should be like Gaza.
BlueVeins22-25
Gaza isn't an open air prison because... [i]checks notes[/i] people smuggle stuff in. Shit never gets smuggled into real prisons!
saschaF
@BlueVeins Do people smuggle guns, bombs, and missiles into prisons? When does a prison population escape and murder civilians en masse for almost a day?
Guitarman12331-35, M
All Palestinians are desperate for freedom from the hell hole they are forced to live in
flipper1966M
@Guitarman123 Gazans were given their freedom in 2005 when Israel withdrew. What did they do with their freedom? Build tunnels? Why didn't they build their economy?
IronHamster56-60, M
@Guitarman123 You funny.
Guitarman12331-35, M
@IronHamster cute little fallacy
BohemianBooM
[quote] How do people in an open-air prison manage to get their hands on so many guns, missiles, bombs, and materials for tunnels?[/quote]

The same way people manage to sneak contraband into prison.

Although, it is a bit different in that Israel allows Hamas to sneak in weapons. Israel wants Hamas to stay around, so they can use them as an excuse to keep murdering Palestinians. That's why Israel helped to create Hamas in the first place.
saschaF
@BohemianBoo Can they receive contraband in the form of the above? How do missiles and bombs enter prison?

[quote]Although, it is a bit different in that Israel allows Hamas to sneak in weapons. [/quote]

Do you have a source for this claim?

[quote]Israel wants Hamas to stay around, so they can use them as an excuse to keep murdering Palestinians.[/quote]

Is this why Israel is trying to remove Hamas?

[quote]That's why Israel helped to create Hamas in the first place.[/quote]

Do you have a source for this claim?

Or, like another user here, is your only purpose to spread dangerous libels and disinformation?
wildbill8336-40, M
[quote]How do people in an open-air prison manage to get their hands on so many guns, missiles, bombs, and materials for tunnels? Where and how did they get the very expensive products used to attack Israel? How did they then get into Israel with all of it? [/quote]

Pretty easily when all your neighboring countries hate Israel, and would do anything to murder one of them. Iran, Lebanon, Syria, etc. will keep funding terrorism and giving them all the weapons they want as long as they're targeting Jews instead of other muslims...

There is no feasible way to completely contain gaza without being constantly undermined foreign interference; western superpowers can't even do it, let alone a country as small as Israel
flipper1966M
Gaza is roughly the size of Philadelphia. Gaza'a population is roughly what Philadelphia's population was in 1950. I never heard of Philadelpia referred to as an open air prison.
@flipper1966 what they did with their freedom? yells khybar khybar ya yahood and kill people for the crime of being jews,christians......
Diotrephes70-79, M
@SexyLesGirl13 [quote]what they did with their freedom? yells khybar khybar ya yahood and kill people for the crime of being jews,christians......[/quote]

If you were treated like the Palestinians are treated would you love your oppressors?

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
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Diotrephes70-79, M
@sascha That reads like BS propaganda straight from the genocidical netanyahoo's desk.

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea
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Diotrephes70-79, M
@sascha [quote]You are also an anti-Semite, and conspiracy theorist. I have included several detailed quotes from you, made at different times, to demonstrate your racism, lies, and hatred. They are here for all readers to see.[/quote]

What is more racist than the idea that Jews should be given special victim status because people question their BS fairytales? Are you upset at the possibility that you won't get your promised 2800 Gentile slaves in the afterlife? According to the Jewish Babylonian Talmud it is perfectly acceptable for Jews to lie to Gentiles so go ahead and tell us a good lie.

BTW, how is the latest ethnic cleansing program going in the Levant? The Jews have been doing them for thousands of years so maybe they will finally get it done this time. After all, it is the First Commandment. Gotta do what God commands, right?

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
flipper1966M
@Diotrephes The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You don't love Palestinians. You hate Jews.
Diotrephes70-79, M
@flipper1966 [quote]The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You don't love Palestinians. You hate Jews.[/quote]
Review 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+thessalonians+2%3A14-16&version=NLT

[b][i][c=BF0000]From the river to the sea.[/c][/i][/b]
gol97941-45, M
And palestinians arent criminals
ElwoodBluesM
@sascha For those suspected of criminality we have the word "suspect." Suspects can be arrested, given sufficient evidence, and held until trial.

[quote]Why do you need a judge to tell you who is bad and who is not?[/quote] Short answer: civilization.
saschaF
@ElwoodBlues What is your point here? That crimes are not crimes unless convicted in a court of law?

If there is evidence of a person or group performing criminal acts, why are they not a criminal?

[quote]Short answer: civilization.[/quote]

Explain.
gol97941-45, M
@sascha im in agreement with you. Prisons house criminals. Palestinians arent criminals hence gaza is not a prison
You love screaming your ignorance from the hilltops to spread your Zionist idiocy.


And tell me without telling me you have no idea how prisons work either. 馃槀

Here is your sign.
@sascha Again, totally irrelevant. Prisons have never been defined by smuggling.


And Switzerland technically has the highest number but that is because those countries have what they call open incarceration which is closer to half way houses in the US or Canada.

Leaving that out is a lie by omission.

Second you were asking exclusively about violent prison breaks and now like always you move the goal post.

Not going to even address your red scare bullshit.
saschaF
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Many of the prisons in Switzerland are closed or have a combination of open areas and closed areas. Why are you making misleading claims, liar?

What are "those countries" you refer to, liar? Why do you think rehabilitation means open prison in every circumstance?

How can you make a misleading claim and then claim I lied about this misleading claim, liar?

What goalpost did I move, clown?
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Tell me without telling me your entire education on the subject is the IDF Tik Tok account.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow ok let me use your bs you sound like a far left woke tard. None of what you have said is relevant.
@SexyLesGirl13 And from all that contradictory far right word salad I am going to guess you are probably one of the Q anon clowns too.

Hamas are not the ones killing 20k civilians in Gaza.

Oct 7th was an atrocity but everything from Oct 8 to today is on Israel.

One single terror attack is not justification for genocide you fool.
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GloomyF
The saying that Gaza is an open air prison shouldn't be taken literally but is more of a comparison because movement is restricted and 2 million people are living under an oppressive regime in a very small space.
GloomyF
@sascha To make a quick reply. Israel built it and Hamas rules it.
Not saying its entirely Israels fault that a two state solution never worked out but Israels policy decisions and treatment of palestinians are abhorrent.
flipper1966M
@Gloomy Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. What happened? Instead of building Gaza's economy Hamas put all its energies into fighting Israel. Gazans were given their freedom by Israel in 2005. What did Gazans do with their freedom?
saschaF
@Gloomy What about those policy decisions?

Israel is not responsible for many of the buildings in Gaza. All the Israeli communities were dismantled. Housing projects have been funded by Egypt, Dubai, and Qatar. Some charities have helped build it. Turkey built their newest hospital in 2017.

Gaza has a rich history, and there are some very interesting historical places, including the ruins of a Jewish synagogue, dated from very early 6th century. Even when Israeli settlements were there, the Palestinian areas were still Palestinian areas.

When Israelis were forced to leave, all of their synagogues were destroyed.

Israelis living in Gaza were responsible for much of the agricultural output, and this was a very successful enterprise. The state of Israel forced its own people out of their homes and their communities. Families were made to leave with their babies and young children. Before that, the British forcibly moved Jews from Gaza in the late 1920s, due to violence from nationalist Arabs.

How does Israel agree to two states with Hamas in power?
BigGuy226-30, M
Oh really ... then explain this picture then:


If the camera zoomed in, i'm guessing you'll be seeing them with icecreams
Guitarman12331-35, M
@BigGuy2 todays times since october 7th and history. Read ilan pappe and gideon levy. 2 israeli historian's. Ilan pappe used to be a revisionist historian hired by zionists to rewrite history and make out Palestinians left willingly
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Guitarman12331-35, M
@BigGuy2 what planet do you live on? Palestinians didnt want to share their homes with outsiders that the united nations told to share. Hamas was created in 1987. Twenty years after israel officially occupied Palestine

 
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