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Death in general is beyond sad

I was just watching Rick Steeves Europe, and the wealthy people of the 1500's. For some reason after seeing a few of their fancy , glittery dresses in a museum Rick was visiting, it hit me none of those people have lived in hundreds of years now😔 They are just gone..their likes and desires and dreams ( not only wealthy of course, but anyone) , never to see the light again (?). It's just so tragic to me that any human passes😢
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Muthafukajones · 46-50, M
I’ve had similar thoughts too. I think about the earth going on without me for a few billion years after I’m gone. My bones will be gone in a few centuries. Then the earth will just keep going for billions of years. I wonder if I’ll somehow have a chance to come back. I feel sad that existence is so limited compared to time.
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Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@Darksideinthenight2 Yup all true. But it doesn't change the fact that death is just very sad, to me. I wish everyone could live forever honestly. Well not evil sadistic people but nearly everyone. Sometimes I wonder about God, if He was omnipotent then why couldn't people live always..?
@Baybreeze to be fair, according to most religions, they do...

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Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@PlatonicSquirelFriends But the idea and teachings can be very hypocritical in some religion, and Christianity alone in the Bible talked about just mercilessly killing women. That sounds archaic so I've seriously questioned those things over the years. It's very hard believing, when people suffer greatly here, including children, and it's not stopped. (On the whole)
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
I watched a YouTube on aging and death, from an evolutionary standpoint.

Evolution seems to favor species that breed fast and young, flooding the environment with offspring, so that at least some will survive, and are not all eaten.

Then, after their reproductive years, they have less of a purpose. And the body starts to accumulate defects and mutations. But as long as the egg and sperm were good while young, this does not effect the next generation.

Now, scientists found organisms that regenerated. And sometimes cell colonies in labs never seemed to die out. Yet they later realized they were being contaminated with new cells, and the old cells were genetically programmed to die out.

It turns out chromosomes have caps called telomeres, that are snipped a little after each cell division. Eventually the cap is gone and the cell cannot divide.

The evolutionary logic seems to be that if cells were allowed to divide forever then cancers would pop up. People would live longer and die of cancer. So cell-lines not being immortal I suppose is a defense against cancer early in life before reproduction ends (since if we only got cancer after menopause, etc., it would not make a difference on our progeny we made in our youth). But I could be wrong on this logic. I forgot details and am reasoning through it now.

Of course, societies would support old people who cannot provide for themselves (not hunt, farm, gather, etc.). But there may be an evolutionary benefit of keeping the elderly around since they assist in raising and educating their grandchildren.

I wonder what will happen if science figures out how to rejuvenate our body decline yet keep cancer in check. What if we all lived a thousand years? (We still could die from accidents, infections, and violence, of course).

Could society function? Would there be enough young people to provide for the old? Could the old be made to stay young? Or would a person just be young for a few decades, then old for centuries? Would people want to feel like a 90 year old for 900 years? Would we get sick of life and our dependency? Could robots fill the gap? Would they decide we are a waste and eliminate us?

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At least we can live on in our artifacts. But it it is a one way conversation. Unless we emulate the departed with AI. It is already happening on YouTube!

There is also the concept that the purpose of life is to pass on genes. We are just necessary, yet disposable hosts for this thread. Life has lasted billions of years. Individual organisms mean nothing in the grand scheme. It makes one feel small.
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
@Baybreeze

We may figure it out. We are constantly rebuilding our bodies. Maybe we can perfect that.

But would we just get bored with life after centuries? Would we see everything, learn everything, and there is nothing left to do? Would we just get sad from all the things we lose over time. People we knew centuries ago that died young from accidents or violence, or parasites.

Could you imagine having to work for like 500 years? Could one save enough to retire, and love off of savings and investments for centuries? Would we saturate the planet with people and building little food to eat or room to move and all starve and suffocate anyway, as old, feeble, poisoned, hungry people?
Baybreeze · 41-45, F
@JoyfulSilence Well I mean in a world where it's possible to live a very long time with maybe only new humans born every hundred years instead of thousands or millions a year alone. If all of life could be harmonious, no money system, no starvation, just happiness. I grew up religious and I thought God was omnipotent. But as an adult I really questioned why there's excess suffering....if a God is all powerful wouldn't they try to stop as much suffering as possible? So the world that I'd love, is one where suffering ends and lives are much longer.
JoyfulSilence · 51-55, M
@Baybreeze

It would be magical.

But food could get dull. Eating dead things hurts living things because we had to kill what we ate. We'd have to all drink chemicals.

And it is all relative. Using an alcohol wipe is mass murder of bacteria! 🤪

Some beautiful scenery came about only through violence and literal hellscapes, that seeded the land with fertilizer for abundant life.

I think a lot of religions have a god who is not only the creator but the destroyer.

And even the slow passage of time wears down mountains to dust. But without such dust plants cannot thrive, and without plants, grazing animals have nothing to eat, and without grazing animals there is no milk for our milkshakes, no steak strips for our fajitas.

Or would we all just eat manna?

But I presume even bread needs death. All that yeast gets baked. I presume it all dies. Life needs death, it seems, in a finite world.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
I don't believe that they do. It's faith of course and a personal thing. My intention isn't to push my beliefs on anyone, only to share what happened. When I was in the hospital doing end of life care for my husband, I was praying over him and whilst I was praying, I felt the peace and love of God literally fill up my entire body.

It's very hard to explain what I felt to someone else who didn't feel it but I know without doubt that this earthly life isn't all there is and I have full reassurance that my husband passed peacefully, without fear or pain and I believe that everyone will live eternally.
SirLirkALot · 46-50, M
people have been trying to cope with death since the very beginning of time and that's where religion and spirituality came into existence
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
It is sad, in a couple of generations, no one will even know your name.
Twenteen · F
I just wonder what women did before there were tampons. You had to stay home otherwise when you walked into a room everyone would know. Super yuck.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I'll tell you, for all of the overexposure of the songs from this film, I remember getting the news that my grandmother had passed on Labor Day weekend in 1994. I was driving to deliver the news to my then-girlfriend. I had it pretty much together, but then this song, as overwrought as a Disney film song gets, just gored me.

The Circle of Life. Indeed. Elton John does it yet again.

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Gibbon · 70-79, M
There is a finality to death. Especially when you lose someone that you love. The reality of it is hard. When you're looking at those dresses, that's what's left. Dresses. Being remembered is the only thing that really keeps us alive. Through memory and records, there's a very small percentage of the human race that is still alive through memory. Grief is hardest when the loss is close to heart.
But you've just expressed a kind of grief anyone could feel, knowing that we're all facing death.
yeah, same thing when i notice people on sw have decorated their sw profile so well, none of this gonna matter
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
I know your feeling. We know that people are going to die and we are going to die but sometimes it hits you on this basic primitive level.
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@Darksideinthenight2 the answer to a lot of that is condoms
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