You will do the most unforgivable things when you convince yourself “the ends justify the means.”

And then believe yourself to be above judgement or retribution. It’s a joke.

Madmonk · M

Seems to be the tactic of the winning side. Hard to argue with results. I guess it only depends on how long the masses will be oppress willingly.

Castenmas · M

@Madmonk Who says they are the winning side. The game isn’t over yet.

Madmonk · M

@Castenmas I hope you’re right.

1984 seems to be the default setting.

RenFur · 70-79, M

The key word being unforgivable - it renders the statement moot.

If I were to lie to the Gestapo in order to save lives then that would be acceptable.

Castenmas · M

@RenFur Even if that lie killed others?

RenFur · 70-79, M

@Castenmas

You are WAYYY too smart for me! Star of the debating class?

🤣

Iwillwait · M

LordShadowfire · M

That's why you have to ask yourself whether the solution is actually objectively better than the problem before you begin. If you're doing more harm than good, stop.

Castenmas · M

@LordShadowfire That depends on if that person is able to accurate assess harm or even agree what harm is with the victims of their actions.

LordShadowfire · M

@Castenmas That's true. It's also true that nobody can really foresee 100% of the consequences of their actions, but you have to do something.

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Castenmas · M

@jshm2 [quote] It's fiction that everyone is trying to turn into a reality [/quote]

People certainly find comfort in fiction. The Bible for example. And they then find reality jarring.

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