bijouxbroussard · F
Unfortunately, when you fight against abortion, you’re a man depriving girls and women of their reproductive rights. Even the father doesn’t have that right because he doesn’t risk his life or shed any of his blood bringing a person into the world.
And the people who want to ban abortion in all circumstances, are insisting that rape victims, even minors, even victims of incest, must risk their lives to spend nine months gestation and go through labor. They literally have no choices.
Nobody who cares about girls or women takes that position. If you want to look at the responsibilities of the fathers put your efforts towards encouraging those who having living, breathing children, whom they don’t support, to step up. Not encouraging more to be born and abandoned.
And the people who want to ban abortion in all circumstances, are insisting that rape victims, even minors, even victims of incest, must risk their lives to spend nine months gestation and go through labor. They literally have no choices.
Nobody who cares about girls or women takes that position. If you want to look at the responsibilities of the fathers put your efforts towards encouraging those who having living, breathing children, whom they don’t support, to step up. Not encouraging more to be born and abandoned.
But it literally strips her rights away. You can’t have one without the other. My position on this is as complicated as the issue and I’m not even sure 💯 where I fully stand, but let’s not pretend we are not stripping another person’s choice in it.
LeopoldBloom · M
Why? It’s not their body. They should have no say. If you disagree, then a dialysis patient should be able to take one of your kidneys since he needs it to live and you can survive with just one.
itsok · 31-35, F
brothers and sisters would also have more siblings if people just kept having babies. it’s just selfish to ever stop having babies. that’s what women exist for. so people won’t be sad that they don’t have more family. it’s not even their body if you think about it. it’s a vessel so fathers can have kids that someone else mostly raises
@itsok ily🖤🤗
ABCDEF7 · M
If few women are so concerned about not having babies, why don't they adopt a suitable contraception method. If they do it occasionally, they can monitor/test and take morning after pill.
It is estimated that the life enters after 6-8 weeks. Why wait to kill a life. After that it's not only about a woman's body and her rights, it's also about someone else's life yet to come in this world, who can't speak for himself/herself.
Think about a pilot who doesn't try to land safely and instead exits with his/her parachute, not at all concerned about the live of passengers. A pregnant woman is expected to be protector of the new life. What if the protector becomes killer, saying my body my choice my rights.
In my opinion abortions should be allowed when it's a special case like danger to life of a woman or rape victim, or up to 6 weeks to safeguard the new life coming to this world after that.
It is estimated that the life enters after 6-8 weeks. Why wait to kill a life. After that it's not only about a woman's body and her rights, it's also about someone else's life yet to come in this world, who can't speak for himself/herself.
Think about a pilot who doesn't try to land safely and instead exits with his/her parachute, not at all concerned about the live of passengers. A pregnant woman is expected to be protector of the new life. What if the protector becomes killer, saying my body my choice my rights.
In my opinion abortions should be allowed when it's a special case like danger to life of a woman or rape victim, or up to 6 weeks to safeguard the new life coming to this world after that.
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OogieBoogie · F
@Raaii it's a HUGE responsibility to bring a child into the world .
It's now roughly a 20 year commitment .
And it's costly .
Life IS getting harder for SO many people.
And you're right ....the world isn't becoming this easy equal paradise ...it's ...fucked up.
It's now roughly a 20 year commitment .
And it's costly .
Life IS getting harder for SO many people.
And you're right ....the world isn't becoming this easy equal paradise ...it's ...fucked up.
BabyLonia · F
@ABCDEF7
What if the father does not want the child?
What if the mother has other children and cannot afford to raise another child?
What if she does not realise she is pregnant for another 6 weeks?
You analogy of a pilot is so wrong...that is his job and his choice to fly a plane. Would you trust a pilot who doesn't want to fly a plane?
People will talk about abortion and say it is wrong.... but they do not consider what it is like for a child to be born into the world, unwanted, unloved, neglected .... what will become of them?
What if the father does not want the child?
What if the mother has other children and cannot afford to raise another child?
What if she does not realise she is pregnant for another 6 weeks?
You analogy of a pilot is so wrong...that is his job and his choice to fly a plane. Would you trust a pilot who doesn't want to fly a plane?
People will talk about abortion and say it is wrong.... but they do not consider what it is like for a child to be born into the world, unwanted, unloved, neglected .... what will become of them?
Pinkstarburst · F
@bijouxbroussard @OogieBoogie I just want to add another aspect in this conversation if I may. We are inundated with male virility commercials and insurance companies gladly pay for Viagra and other ED drugs while it is sometimes a battle for a woman to even get a pharmacist to fill a birth control prescription because it’s against their religious beliefs. Women have to choose between the guilt of taking their child to daycare to working two jobs because the father decided they didn’t want to step up and be a parent while they boast about how many children they have and wear it like a badge of pride. Lord forbid if they try to have a career AND children! They are If a woman doesn’t have enough children they are selfish and if they have too many they are abusing the system or barefoot and pregnant.
Even when we have a choice we lose. We will always be less than human to someone. Even other women sometimes.
Just my thoughts and experiences.
Even when we have a choice we lose. We will always be less than human to someone. Even other women sometimes.
Just my thoughts and experiences.
Wales · M
It will go on whether you approve of it or not. It's a woman's own moral decision and is none of your business.
A Dr recently got fined and taken to court for mentioning abortion to a 10yr old who had been raped.
If I fall pregnant, the chances of either of us surviving are minimal.
It's the safest way for keeping many alive.
If I fall pregnant, the chances of either of us surviving are minimal.
It's the safest way for keeping many alive.
BabyLonia · F
Why judge and blame women?
Why not listen with empathy and compassion.
Why force a child to be born and not be loved by their parents?
There are far too many unwanted children in the world already why add to that?
Why not listen with empathy and compassion.
Why force a child to be born and not be loved by their parents?
There are far too many unwanted children in the world already why add to that?

SW-User
It doesn't even sound like you're concerned about the fetus, only the men and future playmates.
OogieBoogie · F
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SW-User
*sigh*
I fucking hate abortion
I fucking hate abortion