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You never hear much about 'spontaneous combustion ' anymore, where people just burst into flames while sitting in their chair

Maybe cause there"s less smokers and drinkers that was thought to be a factor. I remember seeing photos of scorched chairs which was all that remained from latest casualty who'd been reduced to ashes while watching tv
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Gibbon · 70-79, M
I read a lot about this around 1970. Then recently saw a show which covered those old cases as well as newer ones. In every instance they were able to piece together an actual cause even a reason for localized ashes. They didn't come up with a single case that implied spontaneous internal combustion like a pile of oily rags could create.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@Gibbon interesting..
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@atlantic59 One was the classic elderly lady burned in her chair. It was attributed to falling asleep with a cigarette and a combination of the materials her clothing and the chair were made of. Every part of her that wasn't covered remained intact. Her ankles and feet remained. The intense heat turned her hands and skull to ash. The interesting part of each was the difficulty in explaining why the intense heat didn't burn a wider area. That is a puzzle that remains as theoretical air insulating temperature possibilities.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@Gibbon yeah that was part of the phenomenon how it never spread to other flammable materials to burn the place down that I remember
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
Truthfully I thought long and hard about this and back then people used really combustible liquids as medicine and that's why I believe a lot of them burned from the inside out. While smoking a cigarette . For instance in 1932 Ebenezer McBurney Byers jaw fell off he had cancer and was taking Radithor, a radioactive patent medicine containing radium. They use to drink all kinds of dangerous stuff
@ArishMell Knowing what we know about radiation now... are radiation burns not still burns???

What about chemical burns, then???
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@HootyTheNightOwl They are called "burns" yes, in the sense of destroyed tissue, but they are not burns in the real sense of caused by heat. So nothing to do with the spontaneous combustion myth.
AngelUnforgiven · 51-55, F
@ArishMell I know that, I just used radium as an example of a dangerous chemical I'm not saying it's what caused it.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Therer never was any such thing as "spontaneous conbustion" of people - or any animal - but there were plenty of deaths as you describe, caused by smokers dropping lighted cigarettes.

Other cases were of people setting their clothes alight in cooking or fireplace accidents. There might have been still others in times gone by, caused by candles.

I very much doubt the body was reduced to ashes, either. A fire intense enough to completely consume a body would not leave the chair intact. Even a proper cremator does not reduce it to the grey dust we may know as the "ashes" we scatter.

Published photos would have been of the scene with the body removed.
Richard65 · M
In Charles Dickens' 1853 novel Bleak House, the character Mr. Krook famously dies by what Dickens describes as spontaneous combustion. I did a talk on it to the class as a school project when I was ten (I was perhaps a slightly strange child).
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@Richard65 you were just a curious lad
I'm not convinced that I buy the idea that people just "spontaneously combust".

You know what else there's fewer of??? Open flames... we no longer heat most of our homes with coal or gas fires. Maybe that's had some effect on the number of people who might have otherwise burst into flames.
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NinaCherry · 26-30, F
the only time i seen it was in Fringe
Gangstress · 41-45, F
Also the bermuda triangle
Everyone got lost in that and now nothing
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@atlantic59 Thank you - but I should add it was not my research.

I simply listened carefully to a radio documentary giving those and several other "Bermuda" incidents. I learnt of the Mary Celeste and the "Fairies"* by reading of them.

The authors had done the hard bit!

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* The two girls responsible had cut out drawings of the Victorian idea of fairies, suspended them by fine thread in a tree then photographed them. The grown-up experts all examined the camera and film very carefully and found nothing there that would explain it.... so stopped thinking!
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell still, you did good reporting
NinaCherry · 26-30, F
@Gangstress well thats because the aliens r no longer there
RedBaron · M
LESS smoking, FEWER smokers.
Don’t fart and smoke in tight places
My late ex fiancee believed they were people who were touched by demons. Myself, I think they were people that had too much sodium in their bodies and eventually reacted, going up like magician's flash paper.
atlantic59 · 61-69, M
That sounds ridiculous cause his outsides should have cooked first and he would just have extreme sun burn, but who knows. Not I for sure
@ArishMell The kidneys, concentrating sodium is how they draw water from the blood to excrete waste.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@NativePortlander1970 I would think a sodium compound, not the metal. That reacts with water to create sodium hydroxide.

 
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