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Who is more at fault?

The one who does bad or the ones who support and encourage bad even when they themselves don't do bad.

Bad people seem to date people who tolerate, promote or enable their bad behaviors.
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Vengabus · 36-40
Depends how bad the bad is and what the one encouraging the behaviour gets out of it. Also depends on the competency of the perpetrator and of the encourager and how their relationship dynamic works
And a whole lot of other factors I would think
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
Great analogy!
Listen. People each have an idea of what is bad. Some people just go along with it. Most bad people are just bad. They would do bad things with or without support. Why is blame an issue? Acts are either bad or not.
The one who does bad is obviously more at fault—assuming we believe people should take responsibility for their own actions. Even if they are with "enablers", they chose that partner. The decision to do bad or not is still theirs.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@bijouxbroussard i think it depends on the situation. Sometimes the one who does bad (if unintentionally) can be innocent too. Every situation is different. Sometimes the one who enable can be doing it intentioanally. Sometimes both might be innocent or both might be not so innocent.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Is bad person still bad if they use no one?

Yes.

Is an enabler of bad behaviors a bad person.

Yes.

So which is worse?

Both are bad no matter what.
Yet you want culpability?

So how many times did the enabler do this, with how many bad people? 🤷🏻‍♂

The head of a gang would be such a person. And as such can be charged with racketeering on top of the original crime(s).

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/racketeering.asp
What Is Racketeering?

The term racketeering broadly refers to criminal acts, typically those involving extortion, that involve a "racket". A racket, being some sort of scheme organized to extract illegal profits. It is usually used in reference to patterns of illegal activity specified in the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). This is a U.S. federal law that makes it illegal to acquire or control a business through certain crimes or income from those crimes. It is also illegal to participate, even indirectly, in certain crimes committed by a business or to conspire to do any of the above under the act.

The list of federal crimes specified in RICO includes bribery, fraud, gambling offenses, money laundering, financial and economic crimes, obstructing justice or a criminal investigation, and murder for hire. At the state level, racketeering can include crimes such as murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matters, and drug crimes, as long as they align with the "generic definition of the state offense referenced at the time RICO was enacted."
Beautyinbroken · 36-40, F
I say the one that promotes it because 9 times out of 10 the ones doing it wouldnt if they didnt have support of others
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@Beautyinbroken i think both are at fault but one who does it intentionally more than who does it out of innocence. Blame should go to only bad ones, innocent shouldn't be blamed but both should be hold accountable for their actions.
Magenta · F
People do it all day here... support and encourage bad behavior. Being complicit is just as bad, me thinks.
Both are at fault, but the one does is worse.
But that changes depending on the crime.
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ABCDEF7 · M
The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein
ABCDEF7 · M
@sahi81 Even law sometimes(rarely) considers forgiveness when it is proved that it was not intentional. But they should have repentance for their mistakenly wrong actions.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@ABCDEF7 i think our law should reduce punishment for people who did it out of innocence... I think highly developed euroepan countries have better law and punishment system than ours, they seem more forgiving and deal with reducing crimes in smarter ways.
ABCDEF7 · M
@sahi81 The law considers and reduce punishment, but it has to proved.
Northwest · M
You used a getaway car, to drive your friends from a bank robbery, and one person was killed.

Are you guilty of armed robbery and murder, even if you did not rob the bank and fire the bullet?

Absolutely, as far as the law is concerned.
Ferric67 · M
Both...They are a team
Either one can break the cycle
CarlaMommy · 41-45
The Garden of Eden.
1GXRXW · 22-25, M
both are guilty, but the level of guilt varies depending on the context and the consequences.

 
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