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When I see this posted about certain people , it angers me so much

"THEY WERE ALWAYS NICE/KIND TO ME"


It does not vindicate the person and you're belittling the experience or trauma that others may have experienced, you're high and mighty opinions are traumatising to others, so maybe hold up and think before you go around spouting how such and such a person was always lovely/kind or whatever, or how their illness excuses their behaviour.
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If someone has been nice to me but there are people who have finally felt strong and brave enough to talk about their trauma and experience, I am NEVER going to defend that person. However, I am not gonna start calling them names just to fit in either. If it's who I'm thinking of that you are talking about, I've seen people who have no evidence and who used to be that person's friends, trashing them. Let the victims share their experience, do not doubt them but stop pretending to be one of those who knew all along cause you're not and I know it. That's what pisses me off (about those people). No, you didn't know, just admit that you were wrong about them and shut up.
Also, let's not forget that people on this site are willing to forgive and forget ANYTHING as long as it's someone popular/someone their clique likes. So the whole "tHeY wErE aLwAyS nIcE tO mE" gets even more complicated and toxic then.
@SW-User.... or (some people) supoort others toxicity, JUST BECAUSE they're popular.
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@OogieBoogie oh, definitely!

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@SW-User And there are people who claim to be on the verge of suicide once or twice or thrice a week...I hope that they are not, but I finally blockedba guy who seemed nice but kept doing this. I have tried to direct people back from the precipice, but if they are really having this happen all the time, they need to get real help.
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@SomeMichGuy I avoid all of those posts or people, people on the internet can't fix their problems
@SW-User True, mostly. I have tried to encourage the extremely desperate & broken, and those with much lesser problems.

Results:
1) The truly desperate (e.g., those claiming to contemplate suicide)--unclear.

2) The broken--I've helped a few. One person whose spouse was abusive to the user and to their children I encouraged to not allow past traumas to control their current life; to deny the old abuser(s) any continued power in the present, to envision walking out into the light from under their dark cloud, etc.

This person left the abusive spouse, moved with the children to family in a different state and was building a new life with them last I heard.

Others have been positively affected in the moment, but it is unclear regarding any ongoing help.

3) Thise with lesser problems--much easier to help (duh!). Giving these persons encouragement in an issue of the moment seems to be far more fuitful. Not surprising, but fulfilling (i.e., that one's time was not wasted).
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Sure, Ted Bundy may have been a serial killer and rapist but he made a lovely cup of tea 🤔
@SW-User 🤣oh dear god, i shouldnt laugh at this....but i jist choked on my drink 🤣
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Yeah I agree. Mental illness is not an excuse at all. It's unfortunate when someone isn't who you think they are but people aren't one dimensional.
People here tend to place others on a pedestal believing they can do no wrong when in reality they are no different from others.
At the same time when something goes wrong you are expected to drag that person and beat them over the head. There is no in between unfortunately.
@SW-User Good points!
I have mixed feelings about that. I know very well how many entirely different faces people can have in different interactions, so my experience with someone by no means invalidates a whole other experience by someone else.

But I've also had my fair share on here and offline of people making ridiculous accusations about me that simply weren't true. So unless I saw the toxic behavior towards another person myself, I won't end a friendship based on some third party claims.

If they treat me well and I don't see them treating others badly, we remain friends. That doesn't mean I won't offer empathy and sympathy to someone who feels treated badly though and it becomes a different story when I witness the bullying myself. Treating me well isn't enough. I judge people on how they treat everyone, but only what I know for sure.
deadgerbil · 26-30
Literally. Like the person in question exists outside of one's experiences with them. Even the freaks of society are nice to some people, so that logic makes no sense
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@deadgerbil rapists and serial killers literally didn't rape and kill everyone.. Of course some people got to see their good side, it doesn't mean that they're good people
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I have worked in psych lockdown. In a psychiatric setting if a patient does something illegal like attacks someone, Attacks someone with a weapon, or even tries to kill someone that patient is not held accountable for breaking the law

So why do we sit there and expect mentally ill people to behave normally when in a real world scenario they wouldn’t even be held accountable for their actions?

I never said to excuse such and such for being kind or nice I said to understand the fact that there are mentally ill people and to not take their behavior personally

Mentally ill people do not deliberately engage in these unwanted behaviors if anything they desperately want to not engage in those behaviors

If you have the power to block someone and to remove them from causing harm to you Through social verbal interaction why wouldn’t you do that? Why choose to shift the blame onto the mentally ill person that cannot help their behavior?

It genuinely doesn’t make sense to me and then lash out at me because I said something group majority doesn’t agree with 🤦‍♀️
@DeluxedEdition It's how groups work right? It reinforces group identity to support the current "group think"...
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@DeluxedEdition I have mental health issues and I don’t think we can assume someone has no control over sexually predatory behaviour just because they have a mental illness

Not speaking to this particular case, but I’m uncomfortable with this premise
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
It baffles me how they need to add their useless two cents, like okay they were nice to me and I was nice to them back but when I see someone talking about their negative experience with them I won't say it, it sounds like I'm defending them or not believing the victims. It's like how every time when a criminal is exposed and the neighbours are all like "But they seemed like such a nice person and never caused problems!". Accept that people are not one sided and let others speak without getting in the way for once.
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@HannibalAteMeOut perfectly said, and they chastise those who want to speak out, it's really appalling
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
Sometimes I think every clique has a narcissistic personality right in the middle somewhere. I’m a loner here and in real life a very private introvert, and very untrusting of people in general. So, I see the toxic side of people quickly.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
I almost posted something to this effect recently, but I was unaware of what had transpired and not yet read the comments section.

So there is that. 😅


I feel this though. As someone with a history of abuse it’s one of the worst things someone can say.
People dont appreciate the truth.
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@V00doo no, they really don't want to hear it
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@SW-User yeah, that's the tougb part

So many of us struggle already. Its hard to support someone who is perpetually drowning .
Which i know sounds brutal.

But the HARDEST lesson i learnt was: nobody's help will do anything, if you dont help yourself.
People can throw their hearts at you, but if you dont love you ....it all just slides off .😔
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@OogieBoogie yes, this is a great post cause allows us to think outside the box, and that is absolutely true... If they don't want to help themselves...won't. But also, some...think they can't... For the exact same illness. 😔
Like the mental illness wins that battle
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@OogieBoogie people that are struggling or drowning so to speak have access to to a lot of different numbers and websites that SW provides. They need to check that out instead. They seem to forget that. But, its attention seeking and such. I have a mental illness which i have posted about. I dont like drawing attention to myself. I have sought help for myself years ago and i reach out to my doc. I write on here just to get it off of my mind and such.
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