Everything has consequences. Just like for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Yet the only difference is there are many other actions that interact with each other, so the complete opposite reaction just isn't possible.
So if you can imagine being "all knowing" of every action, it's possible to say a certain direction is most likely to happen.
Yet even this is dependant on free will. For if you change even one tiny aspect the result is also a tiny bit different.
Now though if you look at the over all direction it's pretty close to the same direction. Just a little bit changed.
So unless the free will aspect changes everything the chances are are very good that you might meet many people under the overall direction. Yet not necessarily everyone.
It's still an odds type of thing, just not certainty odds.
Note predictive mathematics show pretty much the same thing. Yet it's also not a certainty. Just a close "prediction".
No, I do not believe that cliche'. I think many apply that scenario when they want to give something more meaning than it has. I believe in time and chance for all.
An example would be all of Ted Bundy's victims. I imagine they wouldn't think so either.
Yes.....you might not get what you hoped from a relationship or person....but it will still teach you something. Each person we meet has sone impact on us, be it big or small. Sonetimes it takes years to realise...or admit what that was. X
@RubySoo People we meet normally all have an impact on our life - most of the time we can at some point find a lesson. Normally. But once in a while,there are those we meet who do nothing but destroy everything they touch without really providing any sort of constructive lesson and we would be better off to never have net those people. Sadly we aren't given a choice.
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No, I don’t believe in fate or that there is any kind of plan…life just happens and you meet people along the way
@SW-User I agree for the most part. I think it's possible a couple key people are put in your path but ultimately it depends on what you do with it. For the rest, it's luck of the draw.
@LadyBronte I moved out of the city years ago and was exploring small towns. Walking down the street I saw a little girl who looked just like the daughter of an old friend but she was too young. It turned out she was the daughter of a guy I grew up with. 5 years and 300 miles away I landed in the same town as he did. @WonderGirl1
@LadyBronte I would say meant to be. My wife and I opened a road atlas and picked a road to follow and landed in his town. I had never left the city before then and lost touch with him many years before.
In life, we meet who we meet at least for the first time. From that point on, we decide if we ever meet up with them again … or not. The same goes for ‘that person’ we meet, so I guess it depends how deeply we look into the issue. We cannot meet up again with ‘that person’ if s/he doesn’t want to meet again, and so the entire question of being meant to cross paths is debatable in how it all works out
@sunrisehawkI understand and I'll stick to friends, but I am keeping the door locked with no plans to open it again. Self preservation comes first from now on. Being alone, while difficult and honestly heartbreakingly lonely is so much kinder than realizing you weren't worth anything to someone you truly thought the world of.
No, but based on your decisions through life some things are inevitable. Example :how I met my ex Met in a gaming forum Because I was interested in a particular game Because I saw the face of the main character on a cover and became very curious about it Because I like games I went to a game shop often And sooooo on and sooo forth
@Nanori I agree. Random meetings, through shared interest or a coincidental turn of events. I have had the same type of thing happen. I wish it hadn't.
Yes I believe we’re not in control of what the universe has planned for us but I do believe that the universe has our backs. Every experience in my life has led me to where I am today and who I am today. And this includes the people who have entered my life and left my life. Whether it be by death or their own choosing.
@FoolishLuna I believe there are certain people we were to meet, others were just happenstance. How we handle things and what we do with those meetings do doubt shape our lives.
This falls into that “neither believe nor disbelieve” category of mine. I don’t know how all this works and I can’t feel that it matters. Regardless of whether anything is meant or just random, one meets what one meets, does what they do, and time keeps rolling. 🤷♀️
Events that happen in our lives are not random. I believe most are fated, and yes there is always a reason. There are many reasonable explanations for this, mostly spiritual. I don't think this is an appropriate place for that discussion. Also the topic is rather vast.
@HakunaMatata I believe some may be fated but not all. If it is speaking spiritually, that takes us into the whole realm of predestination, which opens a very controversial debate. And yes, the subject is vast.
@SW-User A word I haven’t seen (unlessI missed it) is Fate. You don’t see it much these days. But it should be said that Fate walks hand-in-hand with destiny and even Luck. But as far as luck is concerned it’s a word widely used and accepted. Luck or Fate; is there any difference?
Inside the debate, we can go much deeper if we care to delve deeper. Everything has meaning; it has to do, but it isn’t something that we need to delve too deeply but instead it’s more a part of living. The good, the bad and the downright indifferent are all deeply involved in day to day living. Good memories and bad intertwine and we have to get through regardless; no one ever said any of our lives are going to be easy .
Everyone who comes into our lives for a reason or a season but that embraces good and bad. I tend to consider the deeper, spiritual reasons for considering people we consider we are meant to meet (dare I say destined?) are exactly that; however things work out, how can it be anything more than events unfolding but along with this comes the bad events and the good. Who ever openly speaks of how they were meant to be treated badly … and yet life’s is full of varied good and bad. Personally, I find it hard to romanticise our blessings rather than simply say life’s blessings are what we all hope for
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You can't have one without the other... we are meant to cross each other's paths... We make a difference to each other in some way.
@SW-User We can all learn from each other, yes. But if you believe in that "meant for a reason", it is very possible you are either the lesson or the teacher but not necessarily both. I believe most people we meet in life are just coincidence.
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No. That's like trying to derive the Bible Code. Sure... you're always going to find some reason to explain what happened.
As much as the scientist in me wants to put order to things and the person in me wants to think everything has meaning, I believe many things in nature and life are completely random.
@sciguy18 I agree with you. It's luck of the draw. Random events. Random people. It would be easier if there was a purpose to it. That you could find meaning in even the most painful times rather than just knowing you didn't mean anything to someone you truly loved.
@Driver2 Some do make a difference - positive or negative. And there are times I think it could be more that dumb luck. But for the most part I believe it is nothing more than coincidence.
I think that many things in life happens for a reason but not everything. Some things just happen and some things we bring upon ourself. Suppose a bad friend comes into your life. That's not necessarily ordained by fate as something that needed to happen. You just happened to meet a bad person. Then perhaps if you followed your spirituality and were true to yourself you would immediately stop dealing with this person once you saw their true colors BUT often we ignore that inner voice and reason with what we want to do and get burned more later on because of it. Thats not because it was our destiny but God can and does help us use every experience for our good in some way.
@REMsleep I agree. Often bad things happen because we are stupid. 🤷♀️ I also believe there is just the luck of the draw, that not everyone was destined to play a part in your life...it just happens. We can normally use our experiences and interactions as lessons - be them good or bad. Normally but not always.
@smiler2012 I am more the coincidence school of thought rather than "meant to be". But, if I did believe it was all fated for a purpose, I think it would be possible to be the teacher or the lesson but not necessarily both.
people come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime. each has a specific purpose and it's important to learn from that relationship whether it be fleeting or permanent
@saragoodtimes I've heard that said, but I'm not sure I fully agree. Some people you meet serve as a lesson - either good or bad. But once in a while, you cross paths with someone who destroys parts of you that you never regain. The lessons there are negative and damaging. You would be better off not to meet them as they serve no true purpose except evil.
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I call BS. Never believed that. And I bet those who were raped or abused don't either.
@SW-User I agree. Randomness of life. Often it isn't fair.
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No... It's just random about the place we are at.. Some though, run into very nasty individuals 😞 that ruin their live. Like they said... Were in the wrong place and the wrong moment.
@SW-User Very much agree. Random. Sadly I'm one of those who was in the real wrong place and met the one who completely destroyed my heart. There is no living and learning anymore. There is only existing alone.
While I don't really believe in fate or a grander power putting people in our path in that sense. Yet at the same time I believe most meetings is an oportunity to grow and as such their presence can still be considered "for a reason". We are the sum of our experiences, good things can come from the lessons learned through bad experiences in the past.
There are of course a few exceptions though, some cases where someone's presence is nothing but destructive.
@PirateMonkeyCabinet I can agree with that. Our life experiences are usually what we make of them. But yes. There are those we meet who do deep and lasting damage. We would be better off never to have crossed paths with them.
@LadyBronte Indeed. Some meetings just seem like they don't even have a reason for existing other than to break someone. But yeah, issues and pain in friendships or relationships past can sometimes be the catalyst for making one a better friend or partner in the future.
@PirateMonkeyCabinet Or for destroying someone's trust and capability of letting anyone else in again. It happens.
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No i don't believe every dumb shit thats ever stumbled into my life had a purpose. Hell half of them were probably drunks. And if they weren't they probably wished they were after meeting me.
rant here. read no further. no i don't. i didn't choose my parents. i didn't choose my body. i didn't choose to be born. i didn't choose who i randomly interacted with today, and they didn't choose either. after i'm dead, no one will remember me or what i did. the universe existed for billions of years before i showed up, and the universe will suffer a violent heat death billions of years after i'm gone. my life has no impact on the universe and has no purpose. this understanding gives me peace of mind and allows me to put all my interactions into perspective - i'm calm and at peace with the past, present and future - knowing events beyond my control will continue to unfold unabated by my existence.