Isn't it ironic how before women were treated with respect but considered less then and now getting close to be seen as equal but that respect is
gone?
mhm what do you think?
mhm what do you think?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
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Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@hippyjoe1955 So called Christians have been slaughtering people, for centuries. That's fact ( I know you don't do facts).
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Harriet03 Christians have a long way to go to catch up to humanists.
MarmeeMarch · M
@Harriet03 Its a hot topic - and the people that say their belief is better than your belief are the dangerous ones - not the religion. Its the crazies on all sides - and I have met some psychos that will go to church and pray then turn around and criticize their neighbor. Just hypocrites.
Miram · 31-35, F
before women were treated with respect but considered less
Which means they weren't really respected.
now getting close to be seen as equal but that respect is gone
Again, it wasn't really respect if that's the case where you live. It was being pleased by them giving up what makes them happy.
It also most probably due to the fact that most only show respect to those that match their own beliefs.
PlumBerries · 31-35, F
celine211 · 22-25, F
@PlumBerries it can't be just for then because the majority of women don't want to be above..and sometimes its due to ignorance not because they want to be superior
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
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@celine211 Yeah. Now you know how all his posts go. Lol
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Budwick · 70-79, M
I know the masses began to treat women poorly.
I didn't change. I kept treating women well and never considered them 'less' in anyway.
I don't know if the masses see women as equal or not. I always did and still do.
I'm glad you say the tide is turning so everyone respects women and treats them equally.
I didn't change. I kept treating women well and never considered them 'less' in anyway.
I don't know if the masses see women as equal or not. I always did and still do.
I'm glad you say the tide is turning so everyone respects women and treats them equally.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
@WindOfAdolf Well, isn't that interesting!
OS, we've heard from the Neanderthal contingent.
I took a peek in your profile and saw your picture folder of 'your kind of women'. Several of them look similar - are they your sisters?
OS, we've heard from the Neanderthal contingent.
I took a peek in your profile and saw your picture folder of 'your kind of women'. Several of them look similar - are they your sisters?
MartinII · 70-79, M
It’s logical isn’t it. In the old days women were treated by men with respect and consideration precisely because they were considered weaker than men in some respects, more important than men in others. For women who choose to deny or reject those things, respect has to be earned, as is the case with all men.
midnightsun · 26-30, M
midnightsun · 26-30, M
@celine211 yep. There are always people who abuse their rights.
celine211 · 22-25, F
@midnightsun and those people are everywhere and in every grp there is
MarmeeMarch · M
JoeyFoxx · 56-60, M
Life is rarely black and white.
Were all women seen as less? No.
Were all women respected? No.
Are all women seeing a resurgence in perceived value? No.
Are all women being respected less? No.
Were all men seen as more? No.
Were all men respected? No.
Are all men seeing a decline in perceived value? No.
It’s very convenient for people on both sides of an issue to paint things with broad brushes.
But that is rarely an accurate perspective
Were all women seen as less? No.
Were all women respected? No.
Are all women seeing a resurgence in perceived value? No.
Are all women being respected less? No.
Were all men seen as more? No.
Were all men respected? No.
Are all men seeing a decline in perceived value? No.
It’s very convenient for people on both sides of an issue to paint things with broad brushes.
But that is rarely an accurate perspective
JoeyFoxx · 56-60, M
@Miram Fair enough. I suppose my perspective on things is my perspective and I should accept that the way I see things isn't going to be shared by everyone.
Nothing in the Declaration of Independence or Constitution is explicitly gender specific, so long as the term "man" and it's pronouns are interpreted as "human" . (human = man or woman)
However, there is no debate that the signers of the Declaration were all men. The interests of women, when distinct from the interests of men, were only represented by men who had a common decency and a respect for all people.
Eventually, power corrupts.
When the country was young, power was distributed equally. Women weren't necessarily in the background, but were willing to delegate governing to their male counterparts because there were more important things to manage like tending to the farm, tending to the family and whatnot.
This delegation eventually led to the suffrage movement where women who knew better were growing tired of the ignorant corruption among their male counterparts. They wanted a more active seat at the table.
In the end, all of this is a result of people (men and women alike) being unable to hold accountable those who were granted delegated authority (politicians and business leaders).
So, in my mind, misogyny is a real thing, but it's a symptom of a broader human issue of respect and self-respect.
Just one man's opinion.
Nothing in the Declaration of Independence or Constitution is explicitly gender specific, so long as the term "man" and it's pronouns are interpreted as "human" . (human = man or woman)
However, there is no debate that the signers of the Declaration were all men. The interests of women, when distinct from the interests of men, were only represented by men who had a common decency and a respect for all people.
Eventually, power corrupts.
When the country was young, power was distributed equally. Women weren't necessarily in the background, but were willing to delegate governing to their male counterparts because there were more important things to manage like tending to the farm, tending to the family and whatnot.
This delegation eventually led to the suffrage movement where women who knew better were growing tired of the ignorant corruption among their male counterparts. They wanted a more active seat at the table.
In the end, all of this is a result of people (men and women alike) being unable to hold accountable those who were granted delegated authority (politicians and business leaders).
So, in my mind, misogyny is a real thing, but it's a symptom of a broader human issue of respect and self-respect.
Just one man's opinion.
Miram · 31-35, F
@JoeyFoxx
That's an excellent reply, context limited but still.
I don't think of it as a symptom, they are complimentary and there are more and more things involved. Respect, compassion, responsibility.. None is more important than the other.
You cannot teach people to respect the other gender without first making them understand they are one and the same. And you cannot teach them about misogyny without respect.
I mean if a unified perception of respect was all there is to it, you wouldn't have this post, clearly approaching respect differently.
That's an excellent reply, context limited but still.
I don't think of it as a symptom, they are complimentary and there are more and more things involved. Respect, compassion, responsibility.. None is more important than the other.
You cannot teach people to respect the other gender without first making them understand they are one and the same. And you cannot teach them about misogyny without respect.
I mean if a unified perception of respect was all there is to it, you wouldn't have this post, clearly approaching respect differently.
Pseudonym · 26-30, M
Knowing the nature of men, and the society they create, I don't think you're correct in saying that women were treated with more respect in the past. Don't let the formalisms of bygone eras fool you into believing that chivalry existed. The motivations for a man's actions were the same as they are today, even if their expression was different. 😕
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
@Pseudonym In bygone eras women did not have any voice, choice or input.
KaiserSolze · 46-50, F
5thApprentice · 31-35, M
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
I think that a lot figures into this including a change in society.
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
@celine211 Seems like some of these gentlemen would prefer the old way. Makes one wonder why?
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
@celine211 I agree with you and in some respects I think society has taken several steps backwards.