Isn't it ironic how before women were treated with respect but considered less then and now getting close to be seen as equal but that respect is

@JoeyFoxx Not all we talking about majority an average

I don’t know many women who are respected less today than they were 20 years ago.

Can you explain that to me as it pertains to your post?

@celine211

@JoeyFoxx treated with respect but i guess its just society in general that is losing it. More and more people, all types of people, don't know what it is now

I think respect is an interesting topic.

When one disrespects another, is it not the same as disrespecting oneself?

Collectively, we seem to be more tolerant of disrespect. Politicians can say and do whatever they want. Society reacts with scorn and then reelects the same people, or the same type of people.

Gender issues are not the core problems. They are symptoms of s bigger problem.

We are all part of society, whether or not we wish to admit it.

When we complain about society and do nothing meaningful to change it, then we are complicit.

So, the question is: do you respect yourself and those around you?


@celine211

@JoeyFoxx I have to agree; it is very subjective.

When I look at my mother's life, mine has gone far better and the men I do associate with treat me with respect.

@JoeyFoxx
That also depends on context. In a society where the law doesn't give equal rights, gender issues will be at the very core.

Agreed, but the laws are more of a symptom and a lack of context for the law authors, who tended to be men with myopic views of the world.

RBG did such a good job at rectifying this, helping to solve legal issues that were gender biased (some that unfairly favored women... not many people seem to know this)

@Miram

@JoeyFoxx Everything can be argued to be just a symptom. It doesn't mean it is not a core issue. It is simply a connection.

@JoeyFoxx For example; here you say they were men of myopic views. I assume you think that's the core issue?

@Miram Fair enough. I suppose my perspective on things is my perspective and I should accept that the way I see things isn't going to be shared by everyone.

Nothing in the Declaration of Independence or Constitution is explicitly gender specific, so long as the term "man" and it's pronouns are interpreted as "human" . (human = man or woman)

However, there is no debate that the signers of the Declaration were all men. The interests of women, when distinct from the interests of men, were only represented by men who had a common decency and a respect for all people.

Eventually, power corrupts.

When the country was young, power was distributed equally. Women weren't necessarily in the background, but were willing to delegate governing to their male counterparts because there were more important things to manage like tending to the farm, tending to the family and whatnot.

This delegation eventually led to the suffrage movement where women who knew better were growing tired of the ignorant corruption among their male counterparts. They wanted a more active seat at the table.

In the end, all of this is a result of people (men and women alike) being unable to hold accountable those who were granted delegated authority (politicians and business leaders).

So, in my mind, misogyny is a real thing, but it's a symptom of a broader human issue of respect and self-respect.

Just one man's opinion.

@JoeyFoxx

That's an excellent reply, context limited but still.

I don't think of it as a symptom, they are complimentary and there are more and more things involved. Respect, compassion, responsibility.. None is more important than the other.

You cannot teach people to respect the other gender without first making them understand they are one and the same. And you cannot teach them about misogyny without respect.

I mean if a unified perception of respect was all there is to it, you wouldn't have this post, clearly approaching respect differently.

@Miram
This. 👆️

That's the true reality of where we are