StoicGrappler · 26-30, M
In order to think and speak freely, you have to risk the possibility of offending others. So unless we want to limit free thought and speech in the process, we can't criminalize offending people.
ZenKitzune · F
@StoicGrappler I agree, and hey we might even learn something!
indyjoe · 56-60, M
I agree. There are certain behaviors that should be illegal, but being offended and finding things offensive is just a part of life. We can't all fit in and belong with everybody and everywhere, we should just get over it and move on to something else. Part of growing up and living is FINDING our place in this world...not forcing our way into someone else's. We're not going to like everything or even agree with it, but there is no sense in getting rid of them just because our own personal feelings and preferences. You can't and shouldn't establish your own rights by stepping on and/or taking away the rights of others.
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Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
@ZenKitzune that’s how I felt...I didn’t care how people raised their kids and what they did or gave to them..I let them fall and experience hard times and have bad experiences because that’s the real world.
AlienZipper · 61-69, M
@Keepitsimple Real life is hard, and to create an illusory world for your children is cruel....
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
I agree. Nothing pains a parent then seeing your kid struggling or dissapointed but they learn and become stronger and put those lessons to use. They can adult.@AlienZipper
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
Ooh a rare thing we disagree on. 😳
I worry that this argument is being twisted by people with an agenda.
It's really helpful for the Nazis and the racists and those who want to exploit vulnerable people to say 'It's not my fault if you're offended'.
Deplorable things should be offensive, and people should rage against them without fear that they're going to be ignored because they're 'sensitive snowflakes'.
There will always be a few people who whine and moan and try to get something for nothing by saying they were discriminated against or whatever, but it's better to just ignore these twats than to campaign against offence.
I worry that this argument is being twisted by people with an agenda.
It's really helpful for the Nazis and the racists and those who want to exploit vulnerable people to say 'It's not my fault if you're offended'.
Deplorable things should be offensive, and people should rage against them without fear that they're going to be ignored because they're 'sensitive snowflakes'.
There will always be a few people who whine and moan and try to get something for nothing by saying they were discriminated against or whatever, but it's better to just ignore these twats than to campaign against offence.
ZenKitzune · F
@CheshireCatalyst Idk, it's not like I go around listening to idiots lol. I have heard a lot of quite logical talk about the dangers that has made me think, however.
CheshireCatalyst · 41-45, M
@ZenKitzune I know you don't listen to idiots. But it's the same argument that Katie Hopkins, Farage, Trump, are all making to their idiot followers. There must be a reason they all go for the same issue.
ZenKitzune · F
@CheshireCatalyst I can vouch for others, there are a lot of people wanting to use arguments for gain out there but that doesn't mean we should throw out all argument to the contrary. Nothing is black and white.
Edit:can't, not can!
Edit:can't, not can!

SW-User
I think the concept would make an entertaining reality show. Seeing some dude weep as he's cuffed in front of his family and read his rights because when he was ordering milk for his kids he said "white milk" instead of just "milk".
ZenKitzune · F
@SW-User or semi skimmed because fat is wrong!
indyjoe · 56-60, M
@SW-User That's funny. I once saw a bumper sticker I liked that said "I'm offended that you're offended".

SW-User
Often people are criminalized by what someone else would do, but haven't so they haven't given the chance to empathize or being treated as a criminal]. Often people need the reminder they are human, too. Does this mean I'm against the laws in my country ~ I think they are mostly fair and the what an outside body can do. It does question things within me....

SW-User
I think there is a line but I’m not sure (as you say) crossing the line should be illegal.
The KKK took symbols past that line and that is hard to deny.
The KKK took symbols past that line and that is hard to deny.
ZenKitzune · F
@SW-User I think there is a big difference between being offended and being harassed and persecuted though.
AlienZipper · 61-69, M
@ZenKitzune A huge difference...
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
It leads to everyone having thin skins and asking for someone else to help them making them less self reliant.
ZenKitzune · F
@Subsumedpat It leads to thought policing basically
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@ZenKitzune Yes and what did we do before we had police, I think we were still here
ZenKitzune · F
@Subsumedpat we were here but there has always been some kind of tribal order.
Batman · 41-45, M
Not a world I want to live in. I say we just live and let live.

SW-User
guess that rules out being a free man lol

SW-User
I'm offended that you would say this. POLICE!!!!!! 😃
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Offending someone isn't a crime? What law or proposed law are you referring to?
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@ZenKitzune Right, I remember Stewart Lee being charged under blasphemy law in the early 00s. Has that idiocy made a comeback?
indyjoe · 56-60, M
@CountScrofula I'm afraid it has...with a vengeance. Here in the U.S. the answer to everything that offends someone or they just don't particularly agree with or like. let's just file lawsuits and try to get it legislated out of existence. "I have my rights! and mine are more important than yours so I'll see that you don't have any..." is the general attitude. It makes a joke out of the whole purpose of the constitution.
ZenKitzune · F
@CountScrofula yeah a guy was sent to prison for making an offensive youtube video a few weeks ago.
EugenieLaBorgia · F
Moreso, the ones who are offended - apart fromSuperCuteK down there - are often, either the pansy-princess type or the nancy-boy!!
bijouxbroussard · F
It’s like anything, really—where humans exist someone is going to go too far. I often wonder what has changed between now, when kids are so devastated by bullying that they suicide, and my own childhood experiences being bullied.
I know that the internet has made bullying harder to escape. I don’t know what kind of legislation is being proposed, obviously something needs to be done to protect people.
But as I said, there’s always the potential to go overboard, like when a 6 year old was charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate. These are just stray thoughts. I wish I had better answers. 🤔
I know that the internet has made bullying harder to escape. I don’t know what kind of legislation is being proposed, obviously something needs to be done to protect people.
But as I said, there’s always the potential to go overboard, like when a 6 year old was charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate. These are just stray thoughts. I wish I had better answers. 🤔
AlienZipper · 61-69, M
The world already has enough panty waisted and thin skinned titty babies in it. Making offending someone a crime would only make it worse. Law enforcement and the legal system have enough on their hands without this ridiculous idea becoming a reality.
AlienZipper · 61-69, M
@ZenKitzune It's almost like a culture of entitlement...
ZenKitzune · F
@AlienZipper It's exactly that.
AlienZipper · 61-69, M
@ZenKitzune It is just absolutely mind staggering
Eddienj · 70-79, M
We would all be in jail.
ZenKitzune · F
@Eddienj Exactly

SW-User
There's no right to be offended, its ridiculous.
ZenKitzune · F
@SW-User well that seems to be changing in some places.

SW-User
@ZenKitzune doesn't stop it being ridiculous does it? Just because its law doesn't make it morally or ethically correct.'
ZenKitzune · F
@SW-User I didn't say it wasn't ridiculous. I find it scary.