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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Happy to answer this for you, not that you will accept the answer...
I have no problem with transgender people as individuals. I work with a few, and respect how they chose to identify.
However, I've noted that transgender activists and their "allies" are extremely radical and insist on forcing their worldview on everyone else...that is, they are on the gender spectrum and everyone else is "cisgendered"
I am aware that this is a latin word and it is the antonym of transgender and that is quite useful to transgender activists.
However, I believe respect of identity goes both ways. I don't identify as cis-gendered and I will insist you not refer to me that way.
I am a man, and identify as male.
Honor my choices as I honor yours.
But I've noted that's not what happens and I get a response along the lines that I am wrong, and that's pretty much as far as it goes.
So I have contempt for these activists and their allies. They are detrimental to their own cause. And stubborn and as close minded as anyone who disrespects transgender people for their choices.
I have no problem with transgender people as individuals. I work with a few, and respect how they chose to identify.
However, I've noted that transgender activists and their "allies" are extremely radical and insist on forcing their worldview on everyone else...that is, they are on the gender spectrum and everyone else is "cisgendered"
I am aware that this is a latin word and it is the antonym of transgender and that is quite useful to transgender activists.
However, I believe respect of identity goes both ways. I don't identify as cis-gendered and I will insist you not refer to me that way.
I am a man, and identify as male.
Honor my choices as I honor yours.
But I've noted that's not what happens and I get a response along the lines that I am wrong, and that's pretty much as far as it goes.
So I have contempt for these activists and their allies. They are detrimental to their own cause. And stubborn and as close minded as anyone who disrespects transgender people for their choices.
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster no one is forcing anyone to refer to a trans by the pronoun they consider themselves to be truly identified as, that's just courtesy towards another human being
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster you are cis because you identify as the sex you were assigned with at birth just as I do
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 That's fine. Don't call me that though. I don't identify that way. I am a man. If referring to someone by their choice of gender is courtesy, do I not get that same courtesy? The right to be identified as I choose?
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster that upset you does it? Imagine what it's like for a transperson to be referred to by the sex that they don't identify with
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 Uh huh, I'm aware. So answer my question please.
If referring to someone by their choice of gender is courtesy, do I not get that same courtesy? The right to be identified as I choose?
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster identify in whatever way makes you happy, causes no harm to me
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 Cool, well it would be great if you would pass that along to some of your allies, most of them get very upset and shut down when I make this argument. They insist I have no right to dictate how they choose to identify me.
Do you agree?
Do you agree?
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster I agree but those with them type of views often tend to be those who hold traditional values and not socialists who like me are dismissed as "woke"
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Guitarman123 Thank you. So now you at least have one answer you didn't expect and perhaps we found common ground here.
Guitarman123 · 36-40, M
@SumKindaMunster I'm open to any answers that can be explained with some critical analysis