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What do the straights mean when they say the LGBT community is forcing themselves on them?

No one is trying to turn you gay. I don’t understand what you’re even talking about to respond.

If you have issues with gay/trans people in media that kids have access to.

1- be a better parent that is more involved

Or

2- don’t allow straight or cis gender people to be out in that media. Either is ALL acceptable or none of it is. Children have same sex and trans parents too. If they can’t be represented, why should yours?

Homosexuality has always existed in nature and there has been animals known to change their sex. So don’t give me the naturalist argument, because that’s not going to be in your favor.
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The simple fact about all of this, no matter what their rationalizations are, is they are uncomfortable with it and they are trying to turn their disgust into science and rational arguments and concern for children (as if heterosexuality is somehow less sexually-charged than homosexuality; heterosexual sexuality is all over the media), but what it really is is that it bothers them and they want it to go away.

I see many of them are referencing trans people more than homosexuals and that's partly because the battle against homosexuality has largely been lost in much of the West. Homosexuality is here to stay and gay people will be treated like anyone else in society. Trans issues are still up in the air, especially when it comes to transitioning (which, I would agree, is not a decision a child can make) and recognizing someone's new gender (an additional demand on the public that isn't there for homosexuality). Trans issues present a new front for opposition, and are, objectively, a bit more complicated than homosexuality. But it isn't hard to treat people the way you want to be treated. 🤷‍♂️

JestAJester · 31-35, M
I don't have a problem with people doing whatever the hell they want as long as they mind their business. I don't care if you tie each other up in chains hanging from the ceiling and beat each other with socks full of nickels. I just don't wanna hear about it. Sex is suppose to be private. Its suppose to be between consenting adults behind closed doors. I don't have a problem with the LGB part because atleast that still makes sense. Lesbians like women, gays like men, and bisexuals like both. That makes sense to me. I'm cool with that. Am I worried about men hitting on me? Absolutely not, I've already been hit on multiple times, just tell them I'm not interested and move on. T and all the other letters don't. (I can't keep up with all of them anyway) Trans for example. Theres no such thing as transitioning from a man to a woman or vice versa. You are what your DNA says you are. I don't care to hear the gender debate because thats a nonsensical word. If you feel like a woman then you are a woman? Ok, today I feel like I'm a giraffe. No, I know I'm a giraffe so you better address me as such and make accomodations for me. Do you see how silly that is? I know you probably are gonna say its completely different. "Gender is how someone feels about themselves blah blah blah" I thought that was just called personality? Why can't they just accept the truth? Why cant they accept they are in fact a male or female? You can still live your life, think and do what you wanna do. Date you who wanna date.

And for the LGBT community and all the apparent "genders" there are, seems kind of backwards that they include bisexual and non-binary in their group, because both imply there are only 2 genders. So which is it? I didn't use to have such a big problem with it until I started seeing the LGBT propaganda everywhere I go. A lot of that is from companies trying to make a buck by making themselves appear they're for equality and such when in reality they couldn't give a rats ass, so not entirely the LGBT communitys fault. Nobody cares who you do it with or how you like to be screwed. Why is that something we celebrate? I don't ever recall there being a heterosexual parade?
Also seeing a lot of characters now in tv shows and movies and their whole personality is solely dependent on their gender and sexual orientation. Wow, their personality really runs deep doesn't it. We don't care! We like characters for who they are, we like a character with a good back story, one that has character development, etc. If you wanna slip in there somewhere they're gay or something thats fine, but don't base their entire personality on it.

Keep it in the bedroom like normal folks, don't parade in the street in assless chaps and strap on dildos. Especially when there are children present. I know I know its the parents responsibility and such but some parents are fucking stupid and children gotta suffer for it. Also we are not transphobic or homophobic, phobic implies an irrational fear of something and I can assure you we're not afraid. Just annoyed. I'm also not for the puberty blockers. Did you know they use Leuprolide? The same stuff used to chemically castrate sexual deviants? You wanna put that in your child? Speaking of which, leave kids out of it for christs sake. Saw a post about kids being brought to a bar with a drag show going on, men in skimpy outfits. Saw another one where the parents had the kid put money in the strippers jock strap or whatever it was. Another one where a mother basically destroyed her sons life by putting him on puberty blockers and now he has a micropenis, cant experience physical pleasure and cant afford to transition either. This was all recent too, like this year. Children do not understand what sex and gender is. To them anything and everything is possible. They live in a fantasy world, thats just how children are. They believe in Santa Claus, but atleast that is harmless and they grow out of it. A child cannot make that sort of decision for themselves, because they do not know how to distinguish reality from fiction. If a boy says he's a girl, ask him what he means by that. More than likely hes going to say things like "Oh because i like to wear dresses and pink and such" OK so what? He's just a kid and clearly does not understand what a girl is.

Animals, such as frogs, change their sex in a single sex environment. Its a survival mechanism, not because they want it. If you studied biology at all you would know that animals have evolved in many crazy ways in order to procreate and outlast other species. Have you seen tropical birds and what they do to win a mate? Its insane! You won't see that anywhere else in the animal kingdom. Also frogs and such are literally capable of changing their sex, thats how their bodies work, they undergo an incredibly complex chemical process that changes their bodies from the inside out.. So do many invertebrates. Animals act on instinct. They think about food, sleep, and sex. Nothing else. Their goal is to eat, breed and die. That's about it. Some animals are a little more sophisticated sure but gender identity does not exist in the animal kingdom. Humans and other mammals cannot do that, its just not physically possible. Attaching fake tits and rearranging your colon to look like a vagina does not make you a woman.
bhatjc · 46-50, M
@JestAJester Damn right man.
@JestAJester I’m trying to read all this but the way your format isn’t very dyslexic friendly.

I personally believe that life is for enjoyment. But even if humans can’t do that, I don’t see what’s the big deal in allowing people to pursue what makes them happy. If becoming a woman will give you the most fulfilling life, who is it really hurting? Nobody. Let people be happy, is my point.

As per pride parades, it’s for LGBT people. As they have been oppressed for centuries and suicide and other mental health issues are prevalent. Also, many get rejected by their families. It’s a parade of unity, to not feel alone. Community is an important aspect of human interaction. Pride parades have a positive effect to those who have struggled, been abandoned, and been hurt.

As someone who is a part of the LGBT community, I also get annoyed with characters in media basing their personalities around their sexuality. That is Hollywood trying to profit from us, not our actual community. It annoys us as well.

Phobia as implies an irrational hatred/aversion. Not just fear. You call people who hate black people for no reason a racist. This was the word given to me to use to people who hate homosexuals. Give me a better word to use if you don’t like phobia.

I’m also opposed to allowing children into Hooters but I see it all the time. Consistency is key. But that should be up to the parents, regardless of how stupid they are. It’s their problem, not ours. The world doesn’t revolve around children.

Humans are a part of the animals kingdom, and a third gender has existed in many cultures (Aztec and Navajo for example). I feel like if this occurs naturally in someone brain, then it’s justified. This is how civilizations grow and change. We can’t stay stagnant in what we only know from the past and other animals. We have to move forward.

I honestly don’t care if you can actually change your sex or not. My point is that if you’re an adult, you can do whatever you want with your life in the pursuit of your own happiness. It harms nobody to change your gender.

Just because your mind can’t grasp the concept, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist.
Your mind is already made up on this one. You are even using slurs to describe those opposing your opinion.
I recommend shopping for some new adidas and then come back and take a fresh look at this.
Women think men are bad coming on to them now. Try fending off a fag in the 70s.
@Aliveshock I think you got a bit weird with me but I’m going to have to relook at the pm’s unless I deleted them. What I meant by no longer interact with you after this post, was just deleting or ignoring any future replies. I believe living a good life is now the ultimate form of revenge.
@666Maggotz
Something happened in a post and I can tell you in a dm how you responded and then blocked.
@Aliveshock sure, go ahead because I’m drawing a blank.
Carla · 61-69, F
All it means is they dont want to see us, hear about us or have to know we exist.
Because any knowledge will corrupt their kids, and maybe their spouses.
Other than that, they are all cool with our community 🙄
SW-User
Most people don't want their children to be sexualized in any way so it has hardly anything to do with whether that particular individual is gay or trans. There doesn't need to be any discussion around transgenderism in schools and there is no real benefit to children being purposefully exposed to people who identify as trans. When these things evolve naturally in personal relationships it's different but this should otherwise be considered a non-issue in schools and the media (and certainly the state) shouldn't be promoting or encouraging any kind of narrative.
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@666Maggotz it's getting boring to have to keep explaining things to you. You don't seem to understand what your own points entail lol. And you say you're mostly talking about homosexuality but you referenced trans people twice in the original post and have done here without prompting from me.
@SW-User I also referenced homosexuals several times in my post. This post was for you to explain in detail your points. I’m only using you people to strengthen my own talking point.
Well your response was mostly talking about trans people. What else was I supposed to talk about?

Well it gets boring when you keep assuming what my stance is when I haven’t even told you what it was.
@SW-User I don’t want to discuss my points btw. I want a deep elaboration on your stance and the why behind it. My views are irrelevant.

Me questioning your WHY is just that… questioning. That’s the purpose of this post. To question you. To force out what makes you this way.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
I believe that any group that tries to impose itself upon society excessively has some deep seeded issues that needs a resolve.
@Zonuss you’re going to need to elaborate more. These vague answers is the exact reason I made this post. I want details and reasoning.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@666Maggotz It's simple.. Nobody discriminates against the gay community more than gays..They just assume that nobody wants to hire or associate with them. But trying to force people to be comfortable around them who are not is in itself immoral..
@Zonuss who is doing this? What are you even talking about.

Listen, if you can’t elaborate, don’t talk on this post.
I just point out that the Declaration of Independence states that all men are created equal......

and if that bothers them .... too bad.
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@bhatjc I don’t even know what that opinion is. It just looks like a random sentence that doesn’t have anything to do with this post.
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@bhatjc I made this post so people can elaborate further for me, so I can understand them. If you can’t do that, you’re useless on this post. I don’t care about the simplified version of your opinion, I want details.

 
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