That whole situation needs to be looked at again especially with a focus on and to the character of E. Jean Carrol and what actually happened and her somewhat bizzare history and background.
Trump was found responsible for sexual assault. Only because New York State has a very narrow definition of rape. It’s only that definition that keeps him from being called a rapist. As ABC found out.
@DocSavage The ONLY thing ABC left out of what they said is that Trump was found guilty of rape................ "per New York State statutes".
Since other states define rape differently......on a technicality........trump won a decision. But by NY State stantands....which ABC did not say verbatim.......... he raped her.
@DocSavage The jury does a better job. ;-) They just ALWAYS...in EVERY trial he has EVER had.....agree mutually...100%.....that he's guilty. But thanks for the idea. ;-)
In NO case he's been tried for has he been found innocent.
@StygianKohlrabi Actually I do. No one is found guilty of freedom of speech. Only when they use that freedom to abuse or cause Harm to someone else. Like Guiliani,,,,and trump does. Then hell yeah.
@anythingoes477 defamation is a form of speech. the rulings shouldn't be disproportionate IMHO. but punishing Trump with fines isn't going to work against a billionaire
@StygianKohlrabi Depends on the harm that "form of speech" causes. A jury decided that trump caused $89 million dollars worth of harm. And a jury thought Guiliani caused $147 million dollars worth of harm. In both cases what they said drew death threats to the people they were defaming.