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This is an old picture taken after the US military slaughtered thousands of buffalo to deny Native Americans a food source.

And now the US media tells us who are the “bad guys” in each conflict around the globe.

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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Well, it is necessary to consider historical context.
@MarkPaul We know. You are an apologist for all of this kind of shit.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, no so much of an apologist. But, as a historian and journalist you have to understand I have an obligation... a professional obligation if you will... to account for the time and place of events and I don't have the casual luxury that people-on-the-street (like yourself) to simply let feelings fly like a feather in the wind. By this, I mean you are not bound by the implications of the times as historians are. Do you understand?
@MarkPaul Actually you are. You just don't have the spine to admit your own garbage politics.


You can also stop lying about being a historian and journalist.

You have made it clear repeatedly you think this sort of shit is a positive and good thing.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, that's not fair. Of course, I don't enjoy death, destruction, and environmental recklessness. But, unlike you I am not lazy to simply apply 21st century sensibilities on prior generations. You see, I have empathy and a keen understanding of history and historical milestones. If this activity took place today, of course, I would use my platform to call it out. But, to indict past actions in a prior generation is outrageous. I have saliently made this point to you before regarding European expansion, the British Empire, and now on this topic.
@MarkPaul It is accurate. You justify and support this sort of thing on a regular basis. Heck your entire reason for posting on this thread was to excuse it.

We know you think white supremacy and empire are good things.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow As a historian my place is not really to judge what is right or wrong, good or bad. Instead, my interest and job is to bring the information to you in ways you can understand it so you can draw your own conclusions.
AMelancholyHaunting · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul This an action by a reasonably modern army, sanctioned by a democratically elected government using weaponised famine to subdue an indigenous population. The same armed forces and government that would twice use nuclear weapons against a civilian population.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AMelancholyHaunting It was a justifiable use of nuclear weapons before the full effects were known.
@MarkPaul Still determined to be on the wrong side of history I see.
AMelancholyHaunting · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul It was and remains unjustifiable.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AMelancholyHaunting You see, this is my point. You are choosing to bypass the times that the decision was made in. You obviously enjoy being an armchair quarterback, but for those of us who are decision-makers in real-world situations, we don't have the advantages and entitlements that your armchair attitude and behaviour affords you.
@MarkPaul No, you are just determined to justify atrocities by pretending some arbitrary event in history magically made it okay...because reasons.
AMelancholyHaunting · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul A lazy excuse.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Look, as a centrist, my orientation is look at literally everything from all sides. Complimented with my training, that does give me an advantage of understanding more than my own siloed worldview. That's not a limiation, it's an advantage and one you should be applauding instead of criticizing.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AMelancholyHaunting Actually, it's the reverse. Instead of resorting to emotional outbursts, I have to put in the hard work of considering what was going on at the time the decision was made. And, I do a good job of that, I think. I'm literally a forensic investigator in that regard. I really don't understand your objections.
@MarkPaul You are not a centrist. You have proven conclusively you don't understand political terminology and concepts so your labels are meaningless.

You are a conservative in denial. That is all. And regularly make excuses for some of the worst atrocities in history.
@MarkPaul Lying yet again about your qualifications and background.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm not excusing atrocities. I am basically trying to understand them from the context of historical events rather than simply emote 21st century platitudes. I thought I explained this to you once before.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, it's true... so I don't know how it could be a lie.
AMelancholyHaunting · 41-45, M
@MarkPaul You’re none of these things. You’re not a historian or an investigator. You’re a person with a wifi connection and a high idea of what you’d like to be. You read plenty but digest little.
@MarkPaul Nothing you have said is based in truth.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@AMelancholyHaunting Are you insubordinate to all supervisors and managers or just me?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well, I have established a historical marker for context. And, that's a pretty important step to provide some guidance to a discussion like this.
@MarkPaul No, you are making excuses for historical atrocities you agree with political. Full stop.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I resent you implying that. I have ethical boundaries and a moral code. I don't promote atrocity-based policies.