1. End the apartheid supporters and supremacists. Why? Because you cannot make progress with people who do not believe in peace and justice 2. Any invaders must PAY. They [b]have[/b] to pay for their land. They have to pay for their demolition and invasion. Immigration has to happen legally. If they can't stand Palestine, they can all return back home to Poland, New York, anywhere white and nice like they want. Like this guy: [media=https://youtu.be/KNqozQ8uaV8] He's got a house in New York. He moved from New York. Common sense says tell him to go home to New York and stop stealing her house 🤷🏾♂️ 3. Cut the lies. If there is one thing convoluting this whole issue, it's that people like to pretend like it's hard for these colonizers to drop their guns and stop killing Palestinians. Or to have Palestinians walking around freely and living in their houses while these people (if they CAN'T leave) buy and build their own places under Palestinian authority. The supremacists shenanigans has to stop. The demonization and lies has to stop. We're actual people with brains. Humans. This could just work if the bs stops
It doesn't defeat or change the point and necessary solutions. You also have a couple of things you need to answer before anyone can take that seriously.
1. Do you think we will fail to find horror stories from Israeli barbarians raping Palestinian women like they have for ages? Slaughtering? Mutilating? You name it. Are you suggesting that suddenly brains have been lost on the side of those invading Palestinians? Are you insinuating that the Israelis are now brainless and incapable of rational thought to solutions due to them having savages in their ranks? Or is this a racist discrimination and dehumanization on Palestinian Arabs only? I hope you see this faulty door you opened by raising such a point
2. What's the strength of such accusations when many claims like that have been proven to be lies? How do you know with evidence that this is true? Because there was a grear scandalous lie about 40 babies being beheaded. Did/do you believe in that? Or how about the calendar that they tried to call a Hamas schedule? Credibility is lost and iffy at best and jow needs to be rigorously fact checked because of abusive lies and deception.
Are you referring to the West Bank which is illegally occupied by Israel and with illegal UN condemned Israeli settlements which are only expanding ? Palestinians who need literally permits from Israel for everything ?and need to go through humiliating checkpoints that take forever to move around even just to go to pray in Jerusalem in their own land ?a place where safe the children and amnesty regularly report the news of another Palestinian child killed due to Israeli fire ? Or detained without conviction or interrogated without an adult ?
Or Gaza who most of its people are actually refugees who were forced out of many villages and towns which today are part of “Israel” and into it . The same Gaza which has been referred to as an open air prison before 7th of October ?
I mean not even the fishermen in Gaza could fish in their own waters in peace 😂
Let’s start with the Israeli government giving back what is owed to the Palestine people and surrounder to Hamas because Hamas won’t stop killing innocent people unless the Israeli government pays up. That’s why they’re mad in the first place.
Here's a list of Arab terrorist attacks against Jews before Israel occupied Arab land.
[quote]Border conflict, 1951-1956 February 1951 - Jamil Muhammad Mujarrab, a member of a Jordanian armed group, raped and murdered an Israeli girl in Jerusalem's Katamon neighborhood.[3] Jan 1, 1952 - Seven gunmen attacked and killed a nineteen-year-old girl in her home, in the neighborhood of Beit Yisrael, in Jerusalem. On investigation, the Mixed Armistice Commission found that the case against Jordanian infiltrators could not be substantiated. December 31, 1951/ Jan 1 1952 - a rape-murder occurred. The MAC investigating officer, Major Loreaux, reported that the body of the girl, Leah Feistinger,[4] had been found hidden in a cave about a mile from the Jordan border, the girl had been raped, murdered, and her face had been mutilated. While it was believed by Israeli police that this atrocity had been committed by Jordanians, they did not find evidence of an infiltration. The case had not been discussed by the Commission. Major Loreaux expressed the opinion that the Israeli police would have a better chance of finding the killer than the Arabs would.[5] A “reprisal raid” carried out at Beit Jalla on January 6, 1952 was attributed to Israelis. Apr 14, 1953 - Infiltrators tried for the first time to infiltrate Israel by sea, but were unsuccessful. One of the boats was intercepted and the other boat escaped. June 7, 1953 - A youngster was killed and three others were wounded, in a shooting attacks on residential areas in southern Jerusalem. June 9, 1953 - Gunmen attacked a farming community near Lod, and killed one of the residents. The gunmen threw hand grenades and sprayed gunfire in all directions. On the same night, another group of terrorists attacked a house in the town of Hadera. This occurred a day after Israel and Jordan signed an agreement, with UN mediation, in which Jordan undertook to prevent terrorists from crossing into Israel from Jordanian territory. June 10, 1953 - Attackers infiltrating from Jordan destroyed a house in the farming village of Mishmar Ayalon. June 11, 1953 - Gunmen attacked a young couple in their home in Kfar Hess, and shot them to death. Sept 2, 1953 - Attackers infiltrated from Jordan, and reached the neighborhood of Katamon, in the heart of Jerusalem. They threw hand grenades in all directions. No one was hurt. October 12, 1953 - Yehud attack - A Palestinian Fedayeen squad threw a grenade into a civilian house in Yehud, killing a woman and her two children.
Scorpions Pass Massacre Mar 17, 1954 - Scorpion Pass Massacre - Bandits ambushed a bus traveling from Eilat to Tel Aviv, and opened fire at short range when the bus reached the area of Ma'ale Akrabim (Scorpion Pass) in the northern Negev. In the initial ambush, the bandits killed the driver and wounded most of the passengers. The bandits then boarded the bus, and shot some of the passengers, one by one. Eleven passengers were murdered. Survivors recounted how the murderers spat on the bodies and abused them. The massacre was apparently a reprisal raid conducted by members of a Bedouin tribe expelled from the al-Auja region of the Sinai three and a half years earlier.[6][7][8] Jan 2, 1955 - Gunmen attacked and killed 2 hikers in the Judean Desert. Mar 24, 1955 - Gunmen threw hand grenades and opened fire on a crowd at a wedding in the farming community of Patish, in the Negev. A young woman was killed, and eighteen people were wounded in the attack. August 29, 1955 - Beit Oved attack - a Palestinian Fedayeen squad fired small arms at a group of Israeli laborers, killing four and injuring ten.[citation needed] Apr 7, 1956 - A resident of Ashkelon was killed in her home, when attackers threw three hand grenades into her house. Two members of kibbutz Givat Haim were killed, when terrorists opened fire on their car, on the road from Plugot Junction to Mishmar HaNegev. There were further hand grenade and shooting attacks on homes and cars, in areas such as Nitzanim and Ketziot. One person was killed and three others wounded. Apr 11, 1956 - Gunmen opened fire on a synagogue full of children and teenagers, in the farming community of Shafir. Three children and a youth worker were killed on the spot, and five were wounded, including three seriously. Apr 29, 1956 - Killing of Roi Rotberg and Moshe Dayan's eulogy killed by Egyptian-backed Fedayeen, 21 years of age, from Nahal Oz. August 16, 1956 - Egged bus 391 ambush - a Palestinian Fedayeen squad carries out an attack on an Israeli civilian passenger bus traveling from Tel-Aviv to Eilat. Three Israeli soldiers and a female civilian passenger were shot dead by the attackers who ambushed the bus. In addition, three other civilian passengers were injured in the attack. Sept 12, 1956 - Ein Ofarim killings - Attackers killed three Druze guards at the Ein Ofarim facility, in the Arabah region. Sept 23, 1956 - Ramat Rachel shooting attack - Gunmen opened fire from a Jordanian position, killing four archaeologists and wounded sixteen others near kibbutz Ramat Rachel. Sept 24, 1956 - Attackers killed a girl in the fields of the farming community of Aminadav, near Jerusalem. Oct 4, 1956 - Negev desert road ambush - A squad of 10 armed Palestinian Arab militants, who infiltrated into Israel from Jordan, ambush and kill five Israeli construction workers in Sdom. Oct 9, 1956 - Two workers were killed in an orchard of the youth village, Neve Hadassah, in the Sharon region. Suez Crisis, October 1956-March 1957 Main article: Suez Crisis Nov 8, 1956 - Gunmen opened fire on a train, attacked cars and blew up wells, in the North and Center of Israel. Six Israelis were wounded. Feb 18, 1957 - Two civilians were killed by landmines, next to Nir Yitzhak, on the southern border of the Gaza Strip. Mar 8, 1957 - A shepherd from kibbutz Beit Guvrin was killed by terrorists in a field near the kibbutz. Border conflict, 1957-1967 Apr 16, 1957 - Militants infiltrated from Jordan, and killed two guards at Kibbutz Mesilot. May 20, 1957 - A gunman opened fire on a truck in the Arava region, killing a worker. May 29, 1957 - A tractor driver was killed and two others wounded, when the vehicle struck a landmine, next to kibbutz Kissufim. June 23, 1957 - Israelis were wounded by landmines, close to the Gaza Strip. Aug 23, 1957 - Two guards of the Israeli Mekorot water company were killed near Kibbutz Beit Govrin. Dec 21, 1957 - A member of kibbutz Gadot was killed in the Kibbutz fields. Feb 11, 1958 - Militants killed a resident of moshav Yanov who was on his way to Kfar Yona, in the Sharon area. Apr 5, 1958 - Militants lying in an ambush shot and killed two people near Tel Lakhish. Apr 22, 1958 - Jordanian soldiers shot and killed two fishermen near Aqaba. May 26, 1958 - Four Israeli police officers were killed in a Jordanian attack on Mount Scopus, in Jerusalem. At 1654 Local time Lieutenant-Colonel Flint of the Mixed Armistice Commission was killed apparently by a single sniper round while trying to evacuate the dead and wounded Israelis from an Israeli police patrol. The Israeli police patrol was on a disputed route past the al-Issawiya village in the Jordanian controlled area of Mount Scopus.[9] Nov 17, 1958 - Syrian militants killed the wife of the British air attaché in Israel, who was staying at the guesthouse of the Italian Convent on the Mt. of the Beatitudes. Dec 3, 1958- A shepherd was killed at Kibbutz Gonen. In the artillery attack that followed, 31 civilians were wounded. Jan 23, 1959 - A shepherd from Kibbutz Lehavot HaBashan was killed. Feb 1, 1959 - Three civilians were killed by a landmine near Moshav Zavdiel. Apr 15, 1959 - A guard was killed at kibbutz Ramat Rachel. Apr 27, 1959 - Two hikers were shot at close range and killed near Masada. Oct 3, 1959 - A shepherd from kibbutz Heftziba was killed near kibbutz Yad Hana. Apr 26, 1960 - Militants killed a resident of Ashkelon south of the city. Apr 12, 1962 - Militants fired on an Egged bus on the way to Eilat; one passenger was wounded. Sept 30, 1962 - Two Militants attacked an Egged bus on the way to Eilat. No one was wounded. May 31, 1965 - Jordanian Legionnaires fired on the neighborhood of Musrara in Jerusalem, killing two civilians and wounding four. June 1, 1965 - Militants attack a house in Kibbutz Yiftah. Sept 29, 1965 - A Militant was killed as he attempted to attack Moshav Amatzia. Nov 7, 1965 - A Fatah cell that infiltrated from Jordan blew up a house in Moshav Givat Yeshayahu, south of Beit Shemesh. The house was destroyed, but the inhabitants were unhurt. Apr 25, 1966 - Explosions placed by Militants wounded two civilians and damaged three houses in moshav Beit Yosef, in the Beit She'an Valley. May 16, 1966 - Two Israelis were killed when their jeep hit an enemy landmine, north of the Sea of Galilee and south of Almagor. Tracks led into Syria. July 14, 1966 - Militants attacked a house in Kfar Yuval, in the North. July 19, 1966 - Militants infiltrated into Moshav Margaliot on the northern border and planted nine explosive charges. Oct 27, 1966 - A civilian was wounded by an explosive charge on the railroad tracks to Jerusalem.[/quote]
It won't ever be fixed until and unless both sides want peace. That won't happen until and unless Israel recognizes it has, and is stealing land from the resident population. And also that military action will not work. If you want peace with the Palestinians you have to offer them a better future. You won't persuade the fanatics of Hamas, same as you won't persuade the fanatic Zionist settlers. Both have to be sidelined, to be cut off from the vast majority of the Palestinian and Israeli people who just want peace. And the same goes for the Settlers. Currently, as the superpower in the region its up to Israel to make the first move, by giving up land, but I fear that's just not hoing to happen.
@22Michelle The problem also is made worse by the fact that over half the population of Gaza Strip is fifteen and under. What they are witnessing is going to affect them for the rest of their lives.
I do not understand why the Islamic world has not distanced itself from the monstrous gang rape killings of October 7th. This is one of the worst atrocities ever seen on this Earth.
I can see Israel’s need to flush out Hamas. But in doing so they may have created something far worse.
Going back to the 1948 borders is the legitimate solution, but that is not going to happen either.
People of vision are needed. They are there, but in short supply. Qatar, Turkey and some USA diplomats have that vision, probably others too.
My own UK government seems devoid of care and compassion. And should keep well away from it.
@sunriselover and those under 15 in Gaza are now likely to grow up supporting Hamas or an even more extreme group.israel will ptobably win this battle, buf it is losing the war.
@BizSuitStacy awww I’m glad you agreed that Palestinians are in the same position as how South Africans and Algerians were At least you don’t deny that
defunding Hamas and other islamic terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank would be a start, since they target any Palestinians that protest against them. Destroy the ideology so Palestinians can finally have democratic elections. Both sides should then work on a state solution that works for everyone instead of pushing one or the other out.
No fixing of a long term problem. USA should destroy both Countries with nuclear bombs. The rest of the World could not care less about Palestine and Israel.
@sally1981 Your analogy of a nuclear solution is a good one. Remove both from the face if the Earth and the problem goes away.
But what you forget is that the radioactive dust from nuclear blasts goes anywhere, and difficult to predict.
And that is the crux of the issue. The contemptible behaviour of Hamas and the reaction of Israel cannot be contained in a small area of the Earth. There are extreme Islamists everywhere, alone and in their Islamic communities through the world. The world may look on, but it will be dragged into it whether it likes it or not.
@Bumbles I would demolish the West Bank settlements and force the settlers to resettle in Israel. That would be a start. Those settlers have no right to West Bank settlements.
