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firefall · 61-69, M
Every single American has the exact same privileges and opportunities to succeed
That is total horseshit, promulgated by someone entrenched by privilege.If you think you have the same opportunities being educated in a school in SouthCentral LA, as you do in say Connecticut, then I invite you to go out there and explain to all the hundred-million homeowners and parents who rent, why good schools isn't a factor in property price.
In the USA, far more than in Europe, who you go to school with, what connections you make, is immensely important for the rest of your life. The whole society is now designed around entrenching the local elites, the upper 5 or 10%, and making sure all their children stay in that elite layer - that correlates with race partially, as nonwhite people start from a position of much fewer assets on average, but it's primarily about class - poor whites are excluded just about as thoroughly as poor blacks & Latino (and of course American Indians are barely even recognised as citizens, for the most part, let alone allowed to compete).
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@firefall Look at you struggling to make it about race, when in reality, class is way more indicative of who will succeed, not race. You state it plainly in your response.
firefall · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster Yes! I'm NOT struggling to make it about race, as I explicitly state.
brittneyunbreakable · 26-30, F
This is a typical way of thinking. You have to quit playing the blame game and change your perspective. It hasn't even been 100 years since African Americans were nothing more than a white man's property. Dig into their history. See how many lives were made harder or taken away for nothing more than the color of their skin. White privilege is real. You can't be so insensitive on such a matter. Try walking in someone else's shoes.
PlumBerries · 31-35, F
white people are the easy scapegoats atm. It is easier making excuses and playing victim compared to facing reality. I don't know about African Americans always saying it but whomever tries demeaning anyone of having white privilege is a moron imo
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Pherick · 41-45, M
@PlumBerries I am sorry that having a frank discussion about race and privilege upsets you so much. Take care.
PlumBerries · 31-35, F
no assuming you know everything about me because of my race is what annoys me.. bye
Pherick · 41-45, M
@PlumBerries I am making assumptions based on generalities. Do I KNOW all white people are one way? Do I KNOW all black people are one way? Of course not.
Your history in Australia is also very different than our history here in the US. You seem to be getting upset about something that may not even apply to you. I am just curious how you can say the kinds of things you do, without taking into account that not everyone had your upbringing or circumstances?
Your history in Australia is also very different than our history here in the US. You seem to be getting upset about something that may not even apply to you. I am just curious how you can say the kinds of things you do, without taking into account that not everyone had your upbringing or circumstances?
Well yes everyone has the same opportunities but it doesn't always work out that way. There is still ingrained racism that blocks or turns criminal many people. And if you don't believe that look at the current state of xenophobic politics.
gol979 · 41-45, M
What an ahistorical comment and ignorant of the current societal climate. There's plenty of evidence that there is institutional racism. "White privilege" is a way of masking the inherent dominance of the system of the vulnerable, including white people, and to divide us.
But to deny there is an extra layer of hardship and obstacles if you are a minority, is wilful blindness.
But to deny there is an extra layer of hardship and obstacles if you are a minority, is wilful blindness.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MartinTheFirst I mean you general stance on this subject. No doubt you can find cases that you have stated......but they could very well be inappropriate and maybe should lose their job. But that's very individualistic
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@gol979 im talking about the social climate at large
gol979 · 41-45, M
@MartinTheFirst as I said, I don't agree with you at all
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@PainfulTruth apologies. You clearly want substance to this conversation.
As you stated Obama was a socialist......could you point out the raft of socialist policies he implemented while he was in office? Not healthcare though, as it's still for profit
As you stated Obama was a socialist......could you point out the raft of socialist policies he implemented while he was in office? Not healthcare though, as it's still for profit
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gol979 · 41-45, M
@PainfulTruth noooooo, addressing inequality, disgusting.
Not going to answer the question? Even after berating me for conversing like a teenage girl
Not going to answer the question? Even after berating me for conversing like a teenage girl
TexChik · F
Because white democrats , who have enslaved them throughout American history, have convinced them its true.... but they claim its the republican’s ( the whites who went to war to free them) fault ! 🙄🙄🙄
@TexChik The Republicans that freed them don't exist anymore. The parties changed tactics. Look at the Republican southern strategy.
TexChik · F
@canusernamebemyusername that’s what libs always say ... they can’t deny what they did so they say “ the Republicans have changed “! To avert the attention from the smell of BS that followed them into the room . Revising history is how libs deal with their past .
@TexChik Okay you are lost.
CoffeeFirst · 56-60, F
You're just trolling, right?
magicallypussy · 31-35, M
They dont have the same opportunities. It's obviously you dont have many black or minority friends. They have to work harder than white people to get the same results. Also centuries of mind control has really messed up their self value
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I would say this isn't true for all African Americans, but yeah, there is a large black underclass that refuses to address issues in their culture like poor impulse control, long term goal seeking, and unbridled promiscuity that impact their situation way more than any sort of bullshit, nebulous "institutional racism" that the black and academic intelligentsia constantly push as being the problem.
This is the most ignorant racist thing ive seen all day
Pherick · 41-45, M
Every single American has the exact same privileges and opportunities to succeed whether you were born in the ghetto or in an upperclass neighborhood you're able to get education after high school.
Wow, talk about showing off your ignorance. How in the world could you possibly believe this is true? Its honestly mindboggling.
Ewitsu · F
I am not surprised that all the white users would say that African-Americans are the most racist ones. Imo anyone can be a racist.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Because normal people usually blame the world in general for their suffering, but now they think they have a reason to blame all the white men in the same way, so they will.