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Meat is causing people to be illiterate.

Oatly is banned from labeling their products as oat milk because it confuses people. But if it's confusing reading the word oats and milk, yet you think it's real milk, does this mean meat is causing illiteracy issues? I'm starting to strongly suspect this meat business, I thought meat made you smart or at least that's what the industry says 🫪
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Ok, but milk is very specifically a liquid produced by the mammary glands. The fact that some people choose to use a similar looking oat-based product to dilute their coffee does not make it "milk". I'm baffled at how the industry was able to mislabel a product for so long.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl I think because it has been used as a milk substitute. I think the average person should know it's not milk.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@JimboSaturn I think my point is that is nutritional terms they are completely different substances - one is a natural product fundamental to infant development in humans, the other is a highly synthesised substitute with minimal nutritional value. My 9 yo would find it convenient to relabel cheese as a "vegetable", but I'm not fooled that easily!
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl I'm not sure if they are actually trying to fool anyone. It's thoughtless labeling.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl 1. Peanut butter isn't real butter despite butter being first used in the same exact method. Are you this confused over hundreds of other products?

2. Milk isn't real, at least not the way you used it. If you want to get so technical, it's technically cow t itty juice or bovine secretions, yet we don't see whole, 2%, skim cow t itty juice at the supermarket.

3. Names can be given to multiple products if it has the same use. Someone who is allergic to dairy can go to soy milk to put milk in their coffee for example.

4. It's poor logic proving my original theory that there's no logic.
@SunshineGirl Did anybody ever think coconuts have mammary glands?

Now that I think about it, that’s probably why men congregate in the produce department.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl Same with meat, I've never not once taken any issue with beef being called beef and meat being called meat. But if you want to get really technical so to run vegan products out of the market because that's the real reason, then you need to relabel meat as fresh animal corpse and beef to cow and pork to pig. This is the only way to remain true to things

That way when there's things labeled as plant based meat or others, meat eaters don't get confused. You only really have yourselves to blame for not labeling things properly.

It's animal corpse, not meat technically just like plant based meat is soy based meat.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
It's like @SunshineGirl woke up this morning and was like, "How can I make myself look dumb and get dragged on SW today?"

@SatanBurger @JimboSaturn
ArtieKat · M
@Mamapolo2016 I was thinking about coconut milk too
@ArtieKat Then I’ll get the restraining order lifted.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@SatanBurger (1) Butter is a manufactured product processed from milk.

(2) Most milk is consumed unpasteurised and is very "real" (just ask any passing baby).

(3)/(4) Names are given by the food industry to products used in a similar way. The legality differs between jurisdictions (from very permissive in the USA to highly restricted in the EU). My point is simply that the labelling of a product as something it is quite clearly not is baffling. While this is not likely to cause personal harm or loss, it does perpetuate some strange and irrational beliefs surrounding food and nutrition . . as evidenced by some of the comments here.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire People are allowed to express different opinions on a public platform. Doing so helps to spread ideas and challenge orthodoxy. Please keep it respectful.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SunshineGirl I never said you weren't allowed to express yourself. In fact, I highly encourage you to do so. It's most entertaining.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SunshineGirl 1. But at the same time peanut butter is still labeled as butter and coconut milk is still labeled as milk, you can't change that. Which brings me back to my original point. As someone stated on this post already, alternative milks to dairy was first used for people with allergies and milk allergies are quite common especially in babies. Babies can be allergic to mother's milk even, nut milks are meant to be used in the same manner, poured over cereal, given to children, put in oatmeal, smoothies etc. '

2. Yes animal secretions are very real, we labeled it as milk though and if something else acts like milk, that can also be milk but clearly defined like "oat milk" or "soy milk." Milk is not real, milk was a name we gave animal secretions as I stated above, human and cow milk is milk because that's our term, the literal thing that it is, is secretions though. If you want to be technical and call that thing what it is we should call things as they are then.

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While this is not likely to cause personal harm or loss, it does perpetuate some strange and irrational beliefs surrounding food and nutrition . . as evidenced by some of the comments here.

Look.... I'm not about to continue to write a thesis on why soy milk isn't confusing. If one is standing in the dairy department having an existential crises between dairy milk and oat milk, it seems to be a personal issue. Literally, like when I was in customer service and had to explain to people that we didn't have garlic bread, it's a sauce that we put on your choice of bread and then toppings. Sufficed to say a lot Americans didn't get that either, there's nothing no one can do at this point.