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I Could Never Be A Vegan

I guess if you think you could never be a vegan, you have to ask yourself what your reasons are and what kind of person that makes you.

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TinyViolins · 31-35, M
The biggest hurdles that must be overcome to embrace veganism are cultural ones.

I think people can pretty easily tell that animals have degrees of intelligence and emotions, and that people can also identify the cruelty that comes from captivity and bondage. Neither are particularly hard arguments to make.

The struggle comes from getting people to accept that the alternative is sustainable. People are conditioned to a society where eating meat is seen as healthy and essential. Even manly. We employ this myth that vegans are frail cultists fueled by hysteria. That if a meat-based diet was good for our parents, their parents, and so on, it must be good for us too. Or that a vegan diet is too inconveniently limited to only vegetables and tofu. That if we went vegan, we'd become outcasts among our friend and familial circles.

People have always become experts of mental gymnastics when defending the status quo. With veganism, the fables are no different. Guilt and blame only serve to make people double-down on their axioms. Real change requires honest dialogue and education, and that's a much slower process. Psychological hurdles require more delicacy to maneuver
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@TinyViolins Issue is that slaughterhouses ironiclly give them the best death they could ask for, also hunting too.

in the wild they can either starve, or if they don't starve predators can rip them apart...one doesn't die of "old age" in the wild. the wild is beyond brutal, in a cold area they can freeze to death. All those are far more brutal than boltgunning to the head
@TinyViolins

For sure.
As you say, it's not hard for even avid meat eaters to see why they [i]ought[/i] to stop exploiting animals but it's an awful lot harder to convince them that they can do it.
@SeadragonPrincess

Let's assume for the moment that things like chicks getting thrown into a blender because they're male is still more humane than dying in the wild

In the mean time these animals are not wading chest deep in mud and feces or being over fed to the point where they can hardly walk or kept in cages so small that they can't move.

It's not all about the very end so i don't think that's really an issue with veganism or vegetarianism.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu well the overfed thing is an issue but to them they don't know they're going to still keep getting food because in the wild unlimited food doesn't exist...so they keep the same behavior. also if they're dead why would you waste...the body...by say not eating them?
@SeadragonPrincess

Yeah i'm not blaming the animals for over eating here. I'm blaming the industry for over feeding them.

[quote] if they're dead why would you waste...the body...by say not eating them?[/quote]

The point is to stop the practice entirely.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu they're going to die so i'm going to eat i'm a good lil dragon. I do still prefer the fish though
@SeadragonPrincess

And you know what? If you find a dead animal just laying around, even a vegan can go ahead and eat that guilt free.

But that's not what we're talking about here.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu what about fish? They’re duper tasty
@SeadragonPrincess

Well fish are animals so we're including them as well.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu captivity sucks but if they're killed in the wild that's fine.
@SeadragonPrincess

In the wild, animals have to kill other animals to survive.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu what is wrong about killing? i never understood that...
@SeadragonPrincess

Well you're not human so i wouldn't expect you to😉
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu can you explain it to me then?
@SeadragonPrincess

Nah, you wouldn't get it.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu Please try.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu i'm studying humans
@SeadragonPrincess

Sorry, you've made it clear that your dragon values are incompatible with human values.
I don't want to waste my time.
SeadragonPrincess · 26-30, F
@Pikachu i'm still studying them so i wanna know what's so scary about what death is
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Pikachu I can't see who you are responding to but I saw someone killing a blowfish after feeding it a carrot. I couldn't watch it because it's so bloody and cruel. Puffer fishes are poisonous but still, I didn't like it.

You don't think you'd be able to feel anything for fish but I do.
@SatanBurger

That's awful. I feel bad seeing any animal suffer.