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why is everything closing?

some places were needed during the pandemic and they didn't do well either.

Do younger people not shop anymore? Do younger people not cook any more? Do younger people not sew or do crafts anymore?

We don't need fancy clothing stores...that i get but if you don't cook then why are the restaurants dying?
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Pretzel · 61-69, M
I think the increased wages are killing restaurants. People aren't willing to pay the higher prices.

And Amazon and Walmart are doing a number on small business.

I'm guilty of amazoning instead of going to a local store.
ArtieKat · M
@Pretzel
I'm guilty of amazoning instead of going to a local store.

We had, until about a year ago, a local hardware store - whenever I went in for simple things I was told "Nah! Try Amazon"
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@ArtieKat Otoh, we have a local hardware store here that not only has survived being bookended by two Home Depots, in competition with a Lowe's and Amazon as well, but has thrived and expanded. How? Extensive, very knowledgeable and helpful staff, customer-friendly, and active in the community. People don't mind paying a little bit more when they get a lot more in return.
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
@dancingtongue I’m fortunate enough to have a hardware store like that too!
helenS · 36-40, F
I order almost anything I need from Amazon, apart from grocery stuff. I have a "Prime" account. They are surprisingly swift. I live in the middle of nowhere, and I remember all too well how difficult it was to simply buy things at a store which is 20 miles away from my house.
helenS · 36-40, F
@TheShanachie They'll become woke again the day Trump is being impeached.
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
@helenS I hope 🤞
helenS · 36-40, F
@TheShanachie 👍🏼
RosaMarie · 41-45, F
Here is the issue. It doesn't lie with a generation of young people, but with six decades of corporate greed. If you plot average wages and average cost of living, from 1900 to about 1975, they tracked pretty well. Not perfect year to year, but over the long haul, the part of your paycheck that kept you in food and shelter remained fairly steady.

That all changed in the mid 70s. Wages stopped keeping up with cost of living. It has consistently failed to keep up ever since.

At first, this didn't change much. If you were raising a family in the 80s, you were putting just a little bit more of your earnings towards necessities. You could still afford baseball and piano lessons and a family vacation and newer cars. You didn't live much different than your parents.

The problem is, if you are constantly failing short, year over year, the small difference each year compounds. So now, a very large part of earnings go to just food, shelter, and transportation.

I'm in my 40s, no kids, a good paying job. Well above average. And I don't eat out. Why? Because it's a waste of money. I'm trying to save money for my nieces and nephews college. To help them with their first house. Without that generational wealth / generational help, the pathway to success for a kid now compared to a kid 25 and 50 years ago is so much harder. So don't blame the kids. Blame greedy boomers and then greedy Gen-X that just copied the boomers. This may be broken in a way that can't be fixed. At the very least, the fix will be painful and lengthy. 50 years to get here, can't be undone in a year.
@RosaMarie i am not blaming them. I was merely asking them. alot of businesses are going out of business due to lack of interest. the generation that is new to the work force spend their money differently than my generation. i was curious as to what they do instead, but as usual it wafts into another direction so i went with it.

and only white males were happy up to 1975...just saying.

we have been on a slow moving train that no body wanted to get off and say "Hey, this is getting worse year after year. i need to do something about it"

now it is too late.
maskedbandit · 61-69, M
Times are changing as it always has throughout the ages, there is nothing different. Everyone needs to learn how to go with the flow and survive the best way they can. Do not get left behind is the secret. You always have new technologies putting old technologies out to pasture and the old that do survive know how to make the right changes. 'I guess' 🫣 😅
@maskedbandit yeah, but soon everyone will receive what ever THEY want you to receive and eat what they want you to eat. we will be forced to live identically. 1984 just proves how slow we are...we will get their eventually
hunkalove · 61-69, M
There was an Asian restaurant about a block from here that opened two months before the lockdown and managed to survive three years of being closed. A couple weeks ago it closed forever. So sad.
HumanEarth · F
Its all done by design to control the population

I know it sounds wild and crazy

But the internet and cellphones were actually designed to control the population with mind control.

Look we're older and we didn't grow up with this garbage in our hands. We grew up outside playing in mud and playing stick ball.

Don't you see how these business are going under and the one companies are left are Walmart and Amazon

Amazon now ships more then the federal government. Corporation run USA, not the tax payer
HumanEarth · F
It is @LILY61 it is
Fairydust · F
@HumanEarth @LILY61

You gotta laugh 🤭
HumanEarth · F
Right
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
In the USA we went from a growing and thriving economy prior to January to an unstable mess in January and an economy in a state of shambles. This causes the shut downs here you are noticing.
@TheShanachie it has been going on since 9/11. but before Covid...it was gradual. now, it is this and that and the other store is closing. Everyday
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
@LILY61 😴
rachelsj · 22-25, F
My gf and I were talking about that yesterday. Never thought toys r us would ever close
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
@rachelsj Me either 💔😢
@rachelsj i thought that store was brilliant and now....gone
Fairydust · F
Because that was the plan.
@Fairydust it is too late to do anything about the ozone layer or pollution. but i always felt that i was suppose to be a beacon of light for people, but an entire city of evil turned on me before i even got started.

ending homelessness is the answer to our being a society and not a mob. it is too late for me, but if the younger ones can see it...maybe there is a chance. i hope that this is part of the new world order
Fairydust · F
@LILY61

The USA spend billions on NASA to go on space missions, yet there’s homeless and so much poverty. Shouldn’t the money be spent on that that before they waste money on anything outside that.

1 in 2 get cancer yet more money is spent on finding a cure.but they posion the food we eat.

Yet every one just goes along with it! It’s absurd to me.

It’s not rocket science lol 😂
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Why is everything closing? People are shopping online.
@Mesthartiya no, they are closing....that is what this thread is about. store closings. if they were smart, the anchor stores would have gone back to physical catalogs and making their online shopping perfect.
@LILY61 Sorry, do you mean high-street stores closing, or the actual businesses themselves, whether they have an online presence or not?
@Mesthartiya the stores are closing. Kmart and sears roebuck were around before i was born and they had internet sites and catalogs and now they are gone. all of the drug stores are gone or on their way out. sporting goods stores are gone. Joann's fabrics is going to be gone by nest year. Michaels is in trouble. Home improvement stores have been dropping like flies the past ten years. and second hand stores and the like....whom you would think would stick around ....gone....dollars stores going going gone for most of them. OUTLET MALLS FOR GOD'S SAKE! i have seen at least three of those die in my area. that makes no sense at all. none of them kept an online existence....they just disappeared
Stripclubs suffered particularly badly.
Elessar · 26-30, M
That's what happens when the wealth concentrates on top
@Elessar i don't get what that has to do with the stores closing. those people need to shop too
Elessar · 26-30, M
@LILY61 People don't have money to spend and places close
@Elessar but that is not what you said. you said the money concentrates on the top....not the same thing
You can't pay that rent gas and car insurance car payment and car repairs and cell phone and y'all is broke. Broken. No flower children Will arrive to gently lead you away from the military industrial complex. You wouldn't go. No more trying.
Decay collapse rust, clearly desired early death, wars, hatred, chilling willing evil.
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
They definitely don't like going out. They want to shop online and have food door dashed.
@Musicman and they probably think we are weird for watching too much tv and spending our money at the mall
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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candycane · 36-40, F
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@MethDozer i know. i have received so much garbage that i wouldn't have bought if i saw it up close

 
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