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Mike Tyson’s renewed popularity confirms what I’ve always understood about my country…

It’s not what is done, but to whom.

And I can say with some confidence that if OJ Simpson had been accused of killing his first wife and maybe a waiter from "Cletus’ Rib Joint” even if he’d been convicted he would probably have continued to be a hero all his days.
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Punxi · F
I experience life...in such an un- race ?...view point.

I see not color nor ethnicity, but respect all cultures.

I once made a post here about Mike related to his fight record, totally misplacing in my mind his conviction.

I felt bad there after for you yourself replied and reminded me of it.

I'm not a fan of his choices in life for they are inexcusable.

It was as a fighter myself that I'd mentioned his name.

Soon as read this that post was in my head.

😔
@Punxi I envy that you don’t have to see it, that is to say that you’re not affected by others’ reactions to seeing it.

I think most people do see color, the differences among us.

But to see and be appreciative of it, that’s the best. And I’ve always felt like you’re already there. ☺
Punxi · F
@bijouxbroussard May I just add.... I do see...

You as beautiful woman inside and out. A strong intellectual African American woman. And in that....It would invalidate your culture otherwise.

What I dont see of difference inside is the color of your skin. That difference will never keep me from finding love for our sameness.

Others whom choose to see it as a hindrance is racism pure and simple.

Of which I'll have no part of.

🩷
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Can't say I'm a Tyson fan or even aware of what he's been doing, so I didn't know he's had "renewed popularity". I was vaguely aware of his long fight with mental problems and that he appears to be two different people: one when he's on his prescribed meds and one when he's not. I guess that makes me a bit more accepting of his failures than I am of Simpson's.
@ChipmunkErnie He even has his own cartoon.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
It's both to and by whom, yet sadly basically correct. 😔

Think of the situation with Prince Andrew. Stripped out of all the titles, yet not behind bars. And he is still in the line of succession.

Now think of Trump himself. Convicted 34 times of sex crimes, yet still elected president.

It's a societal problem.
Netanyahu and Putin are both war criminals by the UN. Yet do not both countries have UN representation?
Not sure I follow you there. OJ Simpson was accused of a double murder, and despite quite a lot of evidence he won his criminal case, so the jury didn't seem to care that much about the white victims.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard First, who the hell is Zimmerman? OJ's name was "hated" because the evidence in the trial was so strongly against him and no one actually believed in his was innocent. And, while I didn't know Bobby Blake lost in civil court, I do know OJ lost in civil court and was found responsible there for the deaths of Nicole and Goldman. As to Blake living the rest of his life quietly -- he was nearly 70 at the time and living pretty much in obscurity anyway. As to the relative fame of both men, I'd have said OJ was by far the bigger star and more beloved by Americans than Blake ever was.

Re the whole innocent vs guilty thing, that's in court. We all know that in MANY cases the guilty have been found innocent and walked free and sometimes pay for their guilt in other ways, sometimes not.

In the end, I'd say America didn't really care about Blake and so he disappeared into obscurity. America LOVED OJ and that meant what happened seemed like a betrayal of that love. Blake was a known pain-in-the ass, OJ was America's hero. And it didn't help that OJ did things like come up with a book that basically said, "I didn't do it, but if I did here's how I did it"
@ChipmunkErnie George Zimmerman was the man who followed 17 year old Trayvon Martin when he was walking from a convenience store to his father home in the neighborhood. Martin was unarmed, carrying a can of iced tea and a bag of Skittles, Zimmerman, as a self-described "neighborhood watch" called the police to report a "suspicious person", was told not to engage (police were coming). But Zimmerman, saying "they always get away" ignored that instruction and stopped Martin, demanding to know who he was and why he was there. There was an altercation and Zimmerman shot Martin. At first the police weren’t even going to charge him with a crime until there was community pressure. When Zimmerman was found not-guilty even of manslaughter, a lot of us were angry. I remember someone on EP telling me "suck it up—just like we did OJ".

Like I said, OJ was stupid; he kept doing stupid things (like that book) to get back into the spotlight. And it wasn’t happening.
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There needs to be a sad-but-true emoji as a suitable reaction.

Now... what if Obama had done 1/10th of the criminal acts Trump was found guilty of in various courts of law?
@rinkydinkydoink Exactly.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
It's true.
And happens elsewhere.
See the "Starlight Tours" of Indigenous men and the rape and murder of Indigenous women in Canada.
BabyLonia · F
People forget Tyson is a rapist. The next generation have no idea because that story is never told.
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